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Mac Forum / Applications / Word / May 2008Inserting an Em Dash
Version: 2008 Processor: intel There is no longer the option to insert symbol from the task bar. I've searched this in Help, but to no avail! How do I insert an em dash into word 2008?? I'm afraid you'll need to provide more complete & accurate information in order for anyone to be able to assist you... for one thing "task bar" is a feature of the Windows OS, Macs don't have one. If you don't know the correct term for the source you're looking to please describe it as best you can - Symbols can be inserted from several different sources. If this is something that was previously available what has changed since the lat time you used it? We also need to know the exact version of your OS X (10.4.9, 10.5.2?) installation as well as what specific version of Office/Word (12.0, 12.0.1, 12.1.0?). Try repairing disk permissions & restarting your Mac. If that doesn't clear it up please post back with the info requested above as well as any other details you can offer.  SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Version: 2008 > Processor: intel > > There is no longer the option to insert symbol from the task bar. I've > searched this in Help, but to no avail! How do I insert an em dash into > word 2008?? I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no longer appears in "Insert" from the bar across the top of the screen that lists "File, Edit, View, Insert" etc. It should be a simple process to insert an em dash into a word document, but I'm unable to find how to do this in my latest version of word. Even when i search for "insert em dash" in help, nothing comes up, except some ways to insert Japanese symbols. p.s. the "Object" tool bar lists special characters, but no longer contains those like en dash, em dash, etc. which are simple editorial marks. > I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my > previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > search for "insert em dash" in help, nothing comes up, except some ways to > insert Japanese symbols. I've got it mapped to Cmd-Shift-0 [zero] -- but I can't remember how it got there! In article <copespaz-EA89E0.18331214052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, MC <copespaz@mapca.inter.net> wrote: > > I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my > > previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I've got it mapped to Cmd-Shift-0 [zero] -- but I can't remember how it > got there! The standard Macintosh keystroke for an em dash is alt shift hyphen — in any application — (I'm still on Word 2004, so please check it's good in 2008.) Have a look at the keyboard viewer for more similar goodness. For the original poster:- If you want really esoteric characters, then Apple's Character Palette should be your weapon of choice. It is a big scary thing at first, but it is far more versatile than any other insert symbol nonsense. If you want to insert glyphs from the keyboard frequently, then Word's autocorrect (possibly consider formatted variation for glyphs only present in a few fonts) is your friend. Insert glyph in Word doc, select it *then* get into the autocorrect setup panel. I did this with all the Apple keyboard symbols for writing howtos. I found the convention Microsoft starts you off with to be quite neat — stick something memorable in parentheses e.g. "(up)" for the page up arrow with the bars across it, or "(cmd)" for that "place of interest sign" that Apple is so fond of. SignatureTo de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 On apple Keyboard Alt key is also know as Option Key. > In article > <copespaz-EA89E0.18331214052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, MC [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > arrow with the bars across it, or "(cmd)" for that "place of interest > sign" that Apple is so fond of. Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> > On apple Keyboard Alt key is also know as Option Key. Phillip, have you got a museum full of ancient Macintoshes? Even my 10 year old Bondi Blue iMac keyboard is labelled 'alt' along with the ineluctable picture of a railway siding gone wrong. ps Clive Do I get extra points for 'ineluctable'? SignatureTo de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 On 16/5/08 8:26 AM, in article 150520082326260109%nospam@yrl.co.uk, "Elliott Roper" <nospam@yrl.co.uk> wrote: <snip> > ps Clive > Do I get extra points for 'ineluctable'? Indeed. Redeemable, too! Oops, they're Qantas points, and they've just expired... I've always found 'ineluctable' to be, in itself, an ineluctable word. Is that a tautology, or a self-fulfilling prophesy? CH === I could send you a a picture of my keyboard the one I use on my G4-500 is a MacAlley iKey extended keyboard (ice colored). and the PowerBook 17" laptop I have. both have the key double labeled. *option* in bigger print. and above the word option in finer print is *Alt* and as for the Clover leaf key That is the Command key. The reason its done this way is because Apple was always think something about Windows and you could actually use an Apple design extended keyboard in a pinch on a windows machine as long as it would accept a USB Keyboard. My iKey Keyboard has the typical typing keys an escape key left just above the tilde accent key. Then a space, Then F1 through F15 with a space between every 4 Key . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . then there is a cluster of keys: ins/help home Page/up del/x end page/down then a set of arrow keys: ↑ ←↓→ Then a complete numeric keypad with a clear/num lock key and a enter key to make up the compliment. >> On apple Keyboard Alt key is also know as Option Key. > Phillip, have you got a museum full of ancient Macintoshes? > Even my 10 year old Bondi Blue iMac keyboard is labelled 'alt' along > with the ineluctable picture of a railway siding gone wrong. > ps Clive > Do I get extra points for 'ineluctable'? Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> On 15/5/08 8:33 AM, in article copespaz-EA89E0.18331214052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net, "MC" <copespaz@mapca.inter.net> wrote: >> I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my >> previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've got it mapped to Cmd-Shift-0 [zero] -- but I can't remember how it > got there! The standard Mac-wide keyboard shortcut for an em dash is Shift-Option-hyphen (and for en dash: Option-hyphen). Up to Word 2004 at least, it worked in Word. I don't want to have to hit modifier keys any more than I have to, so I set up an AutoCorrect item to produce an em dash when I successively hit the adjacent keys [minus sign] and [equals sign]. For en dashes I hit two minus signs. Cheers, Clive Huggan Canberra, Australia (My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the Americas and Europe, so my follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed) ==================================================== Its normal mapped as follows: option key - hyphen is en shift option hyphen is em >> I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my >> previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've got it mapped to Cmd-Shift-0 [zero] -- but I can't remember how it > got there! Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> Thanks for the additional info - that helps narrow things down a lot. As others have offered, the appropriate keystrokes have long been available for commonly used special characters, such as & among others. In fact, most can be added as buttons on toolbars, but that's just a awkward as having to go through the menu. However, that doesn't address your original concern about the errant Symbols listing in the menu. It most certainly should be there in Word 2008 just as it was in 2004 & X.:-) To see if we can get it back, go to View> Customize Toolbars & Menus, Toolbars page. Click on the *name* of the Menu Bar, then click the Reset button. The menu should be restored when you OK out. If that doesn't correct it come back for additional suggestions. HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 5/14/08 5:41 PM, in article ee9b745.1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, > I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my > previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > search for "insert em dash" in help, nothing comes up, except some ways to > insert Japanese symbols. Sorry - the stuff before and after the "&" was supposed to be em- and en- dashes respectively. Didn't think about the characters getting stripped out in plain text:-} SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Thanks for the additional info - that helps narrow things down a lot. > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> to >> insert Japanese symbols. I alway thought it was option hyphen for en and shift option hyphen for em for em hyphen? > I"m using OS X 10.4.11 and my word is the 2008 version (12.0.1). On my previous word application, I could select "Insert" and then "Symbol". This no longer appears in "Insert" from the bar across the top of the screen that lists "File, Edit, View, Insert" etc. > > It should be a simple process to insert an em dash into a word document, but I'm unable to find how to do this in my latest version of word. Even when i search for "insert em dash" in help, nothing comes up, except some ways to insert Japanese symbols. Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> > Version: 2008 > Processor: intel > > There is no longer the option to insert symbol from the task bar. I've > searched this in Help, but to no avail! How do I insert an em dash into word > 2008?? An em-dash is usually inserted in Word by pressing the dash key twice, the Auto-Correct feature automatically replaces the two dashes with the long em-dash. If this doesn't work for you, check the AutoCorrect preference pane (File/Preferences), that the "Automatically correct spelling and formatting ..." box is checked at the top, and that the "AutoFormat as You Type" Pane has "Symbol characters with symbols" checked about halfway down. Alternatively, the standard Mac keyboard shortcut is alt-shift-dash for the em-dash, and then alt-dash for the en-dash. This should work in all programs, and I can confirm it works in Word 08. Best kt On 15/5/08 8:45 PM, in article tkt26-22AA5C.11452715052008@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk, "Kevin Taylor" <tkt26@cam.ac.uk.invalid> wrote: >> Version: 2008 >> Processor: intel [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Best > kt Kevin, What's the default keyboard shortcut for an en dash? (i.e., not the option-hyphen Mac-wide shortcut but the Word one). I can't remember -- and it was because of what it was that I changed to my own AutoCorrect items for en and em dashes. Clive Huggan ============ G'day Clive - Command+Option+[numpad dash] for an Em Dash, Command+[numpad dash] for an En Dash, and I'm guessing you changed it because accidentally keying Command+Option+[regular hyphen] triggers the RemoveMenuItem command. ...and don't neglect to give Elliott his well-deserved pat on the pate:-) Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 5/15/08 7:19 PM, in article C453023D.3841C%REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au, "Clive Huggan" <REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> wrote: > On 15/5/08 8:45 PM, in article > tkt26-22AA5C.11452715052008@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk, "Kevin Taylor" [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Clive Huggan > ============ Thanks, Bob! You're right about the other command. I also don't like to have keyboard shortcuts that involve such widely separated keys. I realize I didn't say earlier that I set up two minus signs in succession as my AutoCorrect item for en dash -- similar in position to the [minus key followed by equal key] of the em dash. As to your ref to Elliott's "well-deserved pat on the pate", that is the most outstanding example of onomatopoeia that has appeared in this newsgroup for five years! Um, I think it's actually the only one... Cheers, Clive ===== On 16/5/08 9:34 AM, in article C45240C8.39288%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net, > G'day Clive - > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> Clive Huggan >> ============ |
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