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Mac Forum / Applications / Word / May 2008Typing Speed Slows Down Considerably
Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) Processor: Power PC I've written here before about how my cursor can't keep up with my typing. Here's what I discovered today. For some reason when my Toolbox drop-down menu is open on the side of the screen while I'm typing in my document, my cursor can often be an entire sentence behind. But when I close the Toolbox window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? There have been two other reports of slow typing. Neither mentioned the Toolbox, but that used to cause problems in Word 2004. I can't make it happen here: what do you have DISPLAYED in the toolbox, and what is in the document? Cheers On 9/04/08 6:12 AM, in article ee97dfb.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, > Version: 2008 > Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very strange. > Has anyone encountered the same problem?  SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name John McGhie schrieb: > There have been two other reports of slow typing. Neither mentioned the > Toolbox, but that used to cause problems in Word 2004. Well, I don't think either that this has to do with the toolbox, but I realised problems with my speed of typing, too. When I wrote a small paper of only four pages of continuous text I switched off the spell checker and all automatic formatting. However, typing speed slowed down continuously. The rolling ball os Mac OS X showed up again and again. Something seemed to be working in the backgound still slowing down Word. But CPU activity for Word only showed <5%. MacBook, 2,16 GHz, 1 MB RAM, Tiger 10.4.11. Jürgen. i am having the same problem in word. also, excel slows down considerably. a simple copy paste takes quite some time. any ideas why? > John McGhie schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jürgen. You have not specified your version information, so it is not possible to answer your question. On 14/04/08 4:17 PM, in article c3a4501c-3503-40b9-b21d-399df751932b@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com, "Ruchir" <ruchirsj@gmail.com> wrote: > i am having the same problem in word. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Jürgen. SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name Hi Jurgen: What else is running? I would say you may be out of memory if you have only 1GM of RAM. It's possible that the system is waiting to write pages of memory back and forth to disk. Have a look in Activity Monitor and see if Free Memory is low and Page ins/outs are climbing rapidly. Cheers On 14/04/08 7:19 AM, in article ftu0ua$jeg$02$1@news.t-online.com, "Juergen Fenn" <jfenn@gmx.net> wrote: > John McGhie schrieb: >> There have been two other reports of slow typing. Neither mentioned the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jürgen. SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name John McGhie schrieb: > What else is running? I would say you may be out of memory if you have only > 1GM of RAM. > > It's possible that the system is waiting to write pages of memory back and > forth to disk. Have a look in Activity Monitor and see if Free Memory is > low and Page ins/outs are climbing rapidly. Everything is all right in Activity Monitor. Word claims <10% of CPU activity, everything that slows down Word is already switched off, and there is way enough of free memory available. I looked at this already. Also, 1 GB of RAM must be enough for writing just four pages of text. I wrote my doctoral thesis in Emacs using LaTeX, it was >200 pages long, without any problems. Regards, Juergen. Hi Jurgen: One gig is nowhere near enough to get the best out of Microsoft Office 2008 on OS 10.4 or 10.5. That said, 1GB should not slow down noticeably if Word is the only thing running. Word does not have a linear relationship to memory usage: the size of the text part of the file has very little to do with Word's memory demands. Word loads the text portion into a memory buffer, up to the capacity of the buffer (64 KB). So the size of the text has little effect on Word. But disk issues will slow it down badly. If you want to look for this problem, we may be able to find and fix it. But there's no point looking at CPU activity, since Word is not particularly CPU-intensive. I am guessing this will be waits for disk writes or reads, or waits for some other application such as a haxie or an enabler. Cheers On 15/04/08 6:10 AM, in article fu29fc$o1i$02$1@news.t-online.com, "Juergen Fenn" <jfenn@gmx.net> wrote: > John McGhie schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Regards, > Juergen. SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name Hi- Were you ever able to resolve this? I do not have a Mac, but I'm having the same problem with my new Vista....Help!! > Version: 2008 > Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) > Processor: Power PC > > I've written here before about how my cursor can't keep up with my typing. Here's what I discovered today. For some reason when my Toolbox drop-down menu is open on the side of the screen while I'm typing in my document, my cursor can often be an entire sentence behind. But when I close the Toolbox window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? Hi Susan: Yes, for Vista we have the answers. It has nothing to do with this problem, which occurs ONLY in Mac Word 2008, which is not the same thing. In Vista, this problem is usually caused by too much pre-loaded "Rubbish-Ware" slowing the system down. Go to the PC shop around the corner and pay them 30 bucks to re-load Windows for you. Take your Windows Vista DVD and product key with you, and tell them you want a "Clean load with no crap-ware". It will take them about an hour, and your system will run nearly ten times quicker, for the rest of its life :-) Ask them to show you how while they work, so you can do this yourself in future. For heaven's sake, DON'T take it to a LARGE computer shop. They will send it away to an outsourcer. You will be without the computer for three weeks, they will repeat the original installation, charge you $150 and send it back just as bad (probably worse, because they'll stuff something up along the way...) In future: make sure you are in a PC Word group: this group is dedicated to Word on the Macintosh. Not your fault, the PC web interface is appallingly-badly designed. Next time, stand over it and make sure it directs your question into the appropriate group for the PC software you are asking about. Cheers On 1/05/08 1:04 AM, in article 08FFF47C-758A-4DF8-8FAE-3D11D25635D7@microsoft.com, "Susan" > Hi- Were you ever able to resolve this? I do not have a Mac, but I'm having > the same problem with my new Vista....Help!! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very >> strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Nhulunbuy, NT, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name Hello Susan, This is where you'll find a list of all the PC forums that Microsoft has: http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/FlyoutOverview.mspx Cheers, Clive Huggan Canberra, Australia ==================== On 2/5/08 8:03 PM, in article C4411D17.12FD0%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie" <john@mcghie.name> wrote: > Hi Susan: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>> window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very >>> strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? Clive Huggan schrieb: > This is where you'll find a list of all the PC forums that Microsoft has: > > http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/FlyoutOverview.mspx These forums are originally kept on <news://news.microsoft.com/> and should best be accessed using a newsreader... Jürgen. Exactly, Jürgen: all the regulars here use newsreaders or Entourage. Cheers, Clive ====== On 5/5/08 7:14 PM, in article fvmj5e$ha7$01$1@news.t-online.com, "Juergen Fenn" <jfenn@gmx.net> wrote: > These forums are originally kept on <news://news.microsoft.com/> > and should best be accessed using a newsreader... > Jürgen I'm a regular and I use either SeaMonkey (Mozilla all in one) or Thunderbird. And second I was told years ago that the proper sever to get the fastest response is: news://msnews.microsoft.com not news://news.microsoft.com msnews is originating sever while all other are mirrors. That's what I was told by one of the MVP may have been JE, but, it was so long I' am not sure. > Exactly, Jürgen: all the regulars here use newsreaders or Entourage. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> Jürgen Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> Hi Phillip: I think that information is a few years out of date. They are both resolving to the same IP address these days, but the domain name returned is msnews.microsoft.com for both. There was a time when we used to play around with this, a few years back, because they were "mirrors". These days, they are welded into a "load-balancing cluster" that presents to the network as a single server. I believe there are something like 32 servers involved, across more than one location. There is indeed a "Cluster Controller" that keeps them all up-to-date, but as far as I know, it's invisible to people outside the Microsoft corporate network and will not respond at all. Every now and then, the cluster controller gets overloaded and falls over, and then you can get some really strange differences between the servers for a few hours while they rebuild the indexes. But for best service these days, I agree with you: go into msnews.microsoft.com and you will get whichever server is least busy at the time :-) Cheers On 6/05/08 8:58 AM, in article eFRTOOwrIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl, > I'm a regular and I use either SeaMonkey (Mozilla all in one) or > Thunderbird. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >>> Jürgen SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name Glad technology caught up. But; also glad that my information is not completely out of date. :-) I'll stick with the MSNEWS then if this is the parent then I ought to get the fastest response > Hi Phillip: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>> and should best be accessed using a newsreader... >>>> Jürgen Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> Yes, yes, yes! I just bought Microsoft Office 2008 for my mac and I have encountered the same problem. It is so annoying! Is there any way to correct this or speed up the cursor? HELP! > I've written here before about how my cursor can't keep up with my typing. Here's what I discovered today. For some reason when my Toolbox drop-down menu is open on the side of the screen while I'm typing in my document, my cursor can often be an entire sentence behind. But when I close the Toolbox window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? Yes, yes, yes! I just bought Microsoft Office 2008 for my mac and I have encountered the same problem. It is so annoying! Is there any way to correct this or speed up the cursor? HELP! > I've written here before about how my cursor can't keep up with my typing. Here's what I discovered today. For some reason when my Toolbox drop-down menu is open on the side of the screen while I'm typing in my document, my cursor can often be an entire sentence behind. But when I close the Toolbox window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? :chagrin: There is nothing YOU can do, but there is something Microsoft needs to do. There's a fix coming out in Service Release 12.1.0. The fix is currently in testing. We'll get it as soon as it passes. Cheers On 10/05/08 7:33 AM, in article ee97dfb.16@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, > Yes, yes, yes! I just bought Microsoft Office 2008 for my mac and I have > encountered the same problem. It is so annoying! Is there any way to correct [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> window from the screen my cursor resumes its normal operation. This is very >> strange. Has anyone encountered the same problem? :chagrin: SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Sydney, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name John McGhie schrieb: > There is nothing YOU can do, but there is something Microsoft needs to do. > There's a fix coming out in Service Release 12.1.0. > The fix is currently in testing. We'll get it as soon as it passes. This needs further testing with me, but at least I seems to me that the problem with typing speed slowing down even more the longer you type has been solved... Thanks, Jürgen. Thank god for that! And thank you for your report. Just be careful of huge tables. Word will slow down badly in a table that extends across more than about 20 pages. And that one can't be fixed, as far as I know, without major surgery... Cheers > John McGhie schrieb: >> There is nothing YOU can do, but there is something Microsoft needs to do. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks, > Jürgen. SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac Nhulunbuy, NT, Australia. mailto:john@mcghie.name |
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