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Gus@officeformac.com - 25 Mar 2008 21:44 GMT Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: intel
Word crashes every time I use the open file button on the toolbar. Can anyone help me fix this problem?
Daiya Mitchell - 25 Mar 2008 22:05 GMT Sounds like #5 here: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Word2008Issues.html#FileOpen
> Version: 2008 > Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) > Processor: intel > > Word crashes every time I use the open file button on the toolbar. Can anyone help me fix this problem? CyberTaz - 25 Mar 2008 22:51 GMT Hi Gus -
First try running Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions, restart your Mac & see if things improve. If not, post back with specifics of Office & Leopard versions as well as whether this occurs with *certain* files or *all* files, their origin & file format. Also, what if you dbl-click a Word file icon in a Finder window?
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> Version: 2008 > Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) > Processor: intel > > Word crashes every time I use the open file button on the toolbar. Can > anyone help me fix this problem? Gus@officeformac.com - 25 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT > Sounds like #5 here: > <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Word2008Issues.html#FileOpen> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Thanks for the tips. So far so good. It is working normal again. Thanks. CyberTaz - 26 Mar 2008 01:34 GMT Glad it worked out! Thanks for confirming.
On 3/25/08 6:43 PM, in article ee96064.2@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
>> Sounds like #5 here: >> <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Word2008Issues.html#FileOpen> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > >> Thanks for the tips. So far so good. It is working normal again. Thanks. Moment Photography - 24 May 2008 21:52 GMT I have repaired permissions, deleted preferences files, deleted duplicate fonts, restarted numerous times and still nothing. I have to say that I think Microsoft's software is lousy when it comes to being free of bugs!! I can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish.
> Glad it worked out! Thanks for confirming. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> > > >> Thanks for the tips. So far so good. It is working normal again. Thanks. John McGhie - 24 May 2008 23:48 GMT Well, if you want to fix it, you need to tell us what you are using, and exactly what happens.
We need all three groups of digits from your Word version number and your OS version number, and we need to know whether this affects all documents or only some documents.
Without them, all we can say is "Yeah? You don't say??"
On 25/05/08 6:22 AM, in article 84D8A6DE-CCDB-48C5-9109-2CDEA939B199@microsoft.com, "Moment Photography"
> I have repaired permissions, deleted preferences files, deleted duplicate > fonts, restarted numerous times and still nothing. I have to say that I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>>>> >>>> Thanks for the tips. So far so good. It is working normal again. Thanks.
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Moment Photography - 25 May 2008 10:33 GMT Beg your pardon, I am using Word 2004 11.4.2, there is a 6 digit number in brackets and the last three digits are 415. I am using Leopard 10.5.2
It's the same problem as the other person, as soon as you click on the toolbar to open something or press command and "o" the program freezes. I can still open things from the finder though and I can save using the toolbar or command and "s"
> Well, if you want to fix it, you need to tell us what you are using, and > exactly what happens. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > think Microsoft's software is lousy when it comes to being free of bugs!! I > > can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish. CyberTaz - 25 May 2008 15:09 GMT Hello_______-
Based on your first message it sounds like you've taken many of the appropriate steps to correct the problem. Sorry they haven't worked for you, but by the same token the fact that they haven't suggests that perhaps the problem may not be with Word - at least not entirely:-)
When you execute the Open command the program sends a call to the OS which pretty much takes over from there until a file is chosen & opened. If the command isn't being handled it doesn't mean there is a "bug" in the program where the symptom is occurring.
On the assumption you followed the instructions provided on that same web page, did you go the extra step to the next link referring to "If the problem persists"? You didn't specify which preferences you deleted, so just to be sure:
~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/com.microsoft.Word.prefs.plist ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/com.microsoft.Office.prefs.plist ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office Font Cache (11)
These are the ones that would be involved. If you're not having a problem launching Word itself or creating new documents once Word launches, duplicate fonts & other font problems aren't likely to be the issue.
Remember, no Office apps should be running when you move or delete those files. Otherwise the replacement of them on launch will be based on what Word remembers from the old prefs [so to speak] rather than being built from scratch, so the problem will quite likely not be resolved.
If these are the actions you've taken without success and you're certain that you have no 3rd party add-ins or haxies that could be causing the problem, I'd suggest that you download the OS X 10.5.2 Combo Update form the Apple site & reapply it. Then repair permissions, restart your Mac & see if the problem persists.
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On 5/25/08 5:33 AM, in article FB4AE435-69EB-4CA9-913E-A717716E9DA2@microsoft.com, "Moment Photography" <MomentPhotography@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Beg your pardon, I am using Word 2004 11.4.2, there is a 6 digit number in > brackets and the last three digits are 415. I am using Leopard 10.5.2 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>> think Microsoft's software is lousy when it comes to being free of bugs!! I >>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish. John McGhie - 26 May 2008 13:09 GMT Ah! Thanks. No, your problem is completely different from the other guy: he's using 2008, and they're dramatically different. Completely different programs.
Bob suggested re-running the Apple 10.5.2 combo updater. I think that's worth a try.
I would also be suspicious of your Normal template. What happens if you create a band new document, put a few words in it, then save it and close it. That's a critical diagnostic step, which is why I asked you if this is "All documents" or only "Specific documents".
If it's only specific documents, it's corrupt documents and we need to go down that path. If it's all documents, we need a very different path )preferences, replace the normal template, fix disk permissions, re-apply the updaters, re-run the Apple combo updater).
The Normal template and preferences are held in memory while Word is running. If you do not quit Word first, it simply writes the old files back to disk when it quits.
Cheers
On 25/05/08 2:33 AM, in article FB4AE435-69EB-4CA9-913E-A717716E9DA2@microsoft.com, "Moment Photography" <MomentPhotography@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Beg your pardon, I am using Word 2004 11.4.2, there is a 6 digit number in > brackets and the last three digits are 415. I am using Leopard 10.5.2 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>> think Microsoft's software is lousy when it comes to being free of bugs!! I >>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish.
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Moment Photography - 26 May 2008 21:55 GMT I downloaded the updater file, but upon trying to install it it said...
"You cannot install Mac OS X Update Combined on this volume. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update." It said this on all drives, I was trying it on drive 1.
The problem is not related to any documents, it just won't let me use the open controls (toolbar and command/"O" ).
Ross
> Ah! Thanks. No, your problem is completely different from the other guy: > he's using 2008, and they're dramatically different. Completely different [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >>> think Microsoft's software is lousy when it comes to being free of bugs!! I > >>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish. John McGhie - 27 May 2008 03:35 GMT Right. That sounds like a specific Mac OS X problem I have little experience with. Some of the other guys and gals in here know a lot more about Mac OS than I do.
All I can suggest is that you need to take yourself off to the Apple forums and find a solution to the problem you just described. I don't think we will be able to respond to the Office 2004 problem until that one is resolved.
I think you have done some of this? http://word.mvps.org/Mac/DamagedPrefs.html
How much of this have you done? http://word.mvps.org/mac/MacWordNormal.html
You may want to repeat those procedures, carefully and in sequence. The sequence can be critical in those procedures.
Cheers
On 26/05/08 1:55 PM, in article 221CB8F6-8165-4F63-B07A-DCA28CCF5659@microsoft.com, "Moment Photography" <MomentPhotography@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I downloaded the updater file, but upon trying to install it it said... > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >>>>> I >>>>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish.
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CyberTaz - 27 May 2008 04:57 GMT Hi Ross -
Is "drive 1" your startup volume? I've never tried, but I don't think OS X updates can be applied to other volumes. They definitely can't be applied to volumes which don't have the OS installed on them, of course.
If it is the startup drive - or if you can't run the updater on whichever drive is the startup volume - it might be a good idea to run Disk Utility - Verify Disk (or start up from a different boot disk & run Repair Disk) to see if there are problems.
Do any of your other apps present problems with the File> Open command?
Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac
On 5/26/08 4:55 PM, in article 221CB8F6-8165-4F63-B07A-DCA28CCF5659@microsoft.com, "Moment Photography" <MomentPhotography@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I downloaded the updater file, but upon trying to install it it said... > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >>>>> I >>>>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish. Phillip Jones - 27 May 2008 16:09 GMT If you downloaded the Updater through the Software Update, then it will only work on the drive to which it is downloaded. you can copy the update from one drive to the other.
Software Update unless something went wrong should only download and install the latest update.
If however; you went to Apple's website and downloaded the Combo Updater which can install everything from .5 up (in you case) then you can use it on multiple drives. and in fact install from the drive the updater is on as long as the other drives are powered up and operating.
However; If you drive has OSX.4 or OSX.3 the the OSX.5 Updater will not work. in fact the installer scripts may not even run correctly.
Pardon me if I am repeating information from Taz and other folks. But I might be going into more detail, and explaining from the view of a Person that actually owns and operates a Mac Daily.
> Hi Ross - > [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >>>>>> I >>>>>> can't believe I have to waste my life away with this rubbish.
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CyberTaz - 27 May 2008 19:38 GMT Right Phillip -
On 5/27/08 11:09 AM, in article uOZ1muAwIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> explaining from the view of a > Person that actually owns and operates a Mac Daily. The rest of us just keep one on hand for shopping ebay on Sunday mornings:-)
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Phillip Jones - 27 May 2008 20:43 GMT > Right Phillip - > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bob Jones > [MVP] Office:Mac Last part of last sentence should have a comma after Mac. I don't run a newspaper.
No its not that You make use a Mac 24/7 366 days a year. But some of the MVP work on both platforms and I am sure they most likely just use a Mac enough to be able to answer mac Questions.
While it relatively easy to get around in a Mac. You would almost have to be a PhD candidate to be able to wrap your Brain constantly day after day on a Windows machine, and a mac at the same time.
From the Complexity of dealing wit registry keys, ini files, dat files, bak files, bat files, virus attacks, worms, Trogan attacks, spyware, adware, and malware attacks it it would make my brain sore in 1/2 day to keep track of it all.
Most likely its only you and me that are Mac only. :-)
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CyberTaz - 27 May 2008 22:07 GMT Hello again -
On 5/27/08 3:43 PM, in article O$xzzHDwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> While it relatively easy to get around in a Mac. You would almost have > to be a PhD candidate to be able to wrap your Brain constantly day after > day on a Windows machine, and a mac at the same time. I appreciate the compliment, but I'm certainly not in the Ph. D. category, although I definitely work both sides of the fence. The overwhelming majority of the training I do is on Windows boxes, but when I'm not in the classroom I'll typically use one of my Macs - even for prepping many of the PC classes I do. The trick is in having no brain to wrap around either:-)
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John McGhie - 28 May 2008 07:24 GMT Hi Phillip:
You haven't used a modern Windows box. They are so similar you just ignore the differences and it all just works.
A modern Windows user never has to even know about dealing with registry keys, ini files, dat files, bak files, bat files, virus attacks, worms, Trogan attacks, spyware, adware, and malware attacks.
They just load up Vista and Norton Security or MacAfee Security and simply "use" the thing. The software looks after all those things, just the same as it does on a Mac. All of those things exist on a Mac: "the computer looks after them". Same on Windows... But with more silly dialog boxes :-)
Cheers
On 27/05/08 12:43 PM, in article O$xzzHDwIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>> Right Phillip - >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Most likely its only you and me that are Mac only. :-)
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