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Mac Forum / Applications / Word / February 2008Import Citations
Is there a way, or does the MBU plan on making a way, of importing citations to the new citation manager? I have citations in Endnote, Zotero, etc., but no way of importing. I love the citation manager, but I'm not typing in all of my sources AGAIN. Have you used Help>Send Feedback to put it on their "To Do" list? They won't read it in here (well, they might, but they won't remember it when it comes time to design the next version...) Use Send Feedback to get the idea into the database, where it won't get lost. Cheers On 29/02/08 2:52 PM, in article ee8f27f.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, > Is there a way, or does the MBU plan on making a way, of importing citations > to the new citation manager? I have citations in Endnote, Zotero, etc., but no > way of importing. I love the citation manager, but I'm not typing in all of my > sources AGAIN.  SignatureDon't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/ Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer +61 4 1209 1410, mailto:john@mcghie.name McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/ Nhulunbuy, Northern Territory, Australia Can I ask, out of curiosity--if you have EndNote and Zotero, why do you love the citation manager? > Is there a way, or does the MBU plan on making a way, of importing citations to the new citation manager? I have citations in Endnote, Zotero, etc., but no way of importing. I love the citation manager, but I'm not typing in all of my sources AGAIN. Daiya-- I suppose I should have qualified that: I love the 'idea' of the citation manager. Zotero is my preferred database, but it appears it is going to take some time to get it running with Office 08. And, it doesn't format to Turabian, which I need right now. Endnote hasn't released an update either, and I find it to be clunky and overblown. Also, I just realized the "citation manager" doesn't insert "ibid" after multiple entries...so my earlier enthusiasm has been dampened. I suppose I could just run Office 04, but it was never stable on my machine--and I love the idea of an XML based system (and I'm too scared to use NeoOffice). Plus, and I hate to say this as a life-long Mac user, I REALLY love Word 08. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen that company produce. I'm trying "bookends" right now as a citation manager. Apparently it works well with 08--but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. John--I have just done so. Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for the reply. I sorta love the idea of the citation manager for students, and it does what it does pretty easily, but like you, I find too many missing things in it to love it itself. It's clearly a version 1--EndNote 3 didn't do shortened subsequent references either (my god, did I really start with EN3?) Many people seem to be very happy with BookEnds. I don't know how Zotero works--but you do realize that you don't necessarily need the plug-in to use the programs, right? For instance, with EndNote, you can copy and paste raw citation fields, and then either go back to Word 2004 or use the Scan RTF feature to format the citations right before circulating the document. > Daiya-- > I suppose I should have qualified that: I love the 'idea' of the citation manager. Zotero is my preferred database, but it appears it is going to take some time to get it running with Office 08. And, it doesn't format to Turabian, which I need right now. Endnote hasn't released an update either, and I find it to be clunky and overblown. > Also, I just realized the "citation manager" doesn't insert "ibid" after multiple entries...so my earlier enthusiasm has been dampened. > I suppose I could just run Office 04, but it was never stable on my machine--and I love the idea of an XML based system (and I'm too scared to use NeoOffice). Plus, and I hate to say this as a life-long Mac user, I REALLY love Word 08. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen that company produce. I'm trying "bookends" right now as a citation manager. Apparently it works well with 08--but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. > > John--I have just done so. Thanks for the suggestion. Daiya-- Actually, no, I did not know I could use Endnote without the plug-in. What is the "Scan RTF" feature that you mention here? How do I do it? (I want to avoid going back to Word 2004, mainly because I made the mistake of removing it!) Endnote 3? Wow. Not to date myself, but I came in on version 8. It looks like EN now calls it "Format Paper" rather than Scan RTF, as here: http://endnote.com/support/en_wpchart_mac.asp The EN Help will definitely have a section on it, possibly called something like "using EN with processors other than Word". It's not ideal--but it's functional and it means you don't have to break your workflow to deal with this problem immediately, but can consider Bookends at your leisure (there's also Sente, by the way) To get the raw unformatted fields into the Word doc, just keep EN open and either drag and drop directly from your library or use cmd-c, cmd-v to copy/paste. That's what you do as you compose. When the doc is pretty much finished, save a COPY as RTF and then run EN on it to format the citations. If I remember correctly, I have bought EN3, 5, 8 (buggy) and X, and have never really committed to using its full power. Stupid. I started with 3 early in grad school, though. > Daiya-- > Actually, no, I did not know I could use Endnote without the plug-in. What is the "Scan RTF" feature that you mention here? How do I do it? (I want to avoid going back to Word 2004, mainly because I made the mistake of removing it!) > Endnote 3? Wow. Not to date myself, but I came in on version 8. |
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