Can I get rid of the document elements, quick tables, etc. menu line in print layout view?
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Dennis_Baron@officeformac.com - 11 Feb 2008 22:10 GMT So far I'm happy with Word for Mac 08, but one thing that bothers me is the extra menu line that appears in print layout view with buttons for doc elements, quick tables, charts, graphics, word art. I don't use these features, and would like as much writing space as possible on the screen (though I still want to display the std and formatting toolbars). I don't see a way to disable this new menu bar. My rule: if I don't use it, I don't want it on the screen. Michel Bintener - 11 Feb 2008 22:22 GMT There's no way to disable it, sorry.
On 11/02/08 23:10, in article ee8d0c7.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> So far I'm happy with Word for Mac 08, but one thing that bothers me is the > extra menu line that appears in print layout view with buttons for doc [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a way to disable this new menu bar. My rule: if I don't use it, I don't want > it on the screen.
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Daiya Mitchell - 11 Feb 2008 23:26 GMT But *do* use Help | Send Feedback in Word to ask for a preference to hide it entirely. This one should be getting lots of votes.
> There's no way to disable it, sorry. Dennis_Baron@officeformac.com - 12 Feb 2008 02:29 GMT OK, I did what Daiya Mitchell suggested. Who knows, somebody might even listen. Daiya Mitchell - 12 Feb 2008 04:00 GMT They won't listen to you, but I'm hoping that the accumulation of requests for this will make a difference. I figure we're up to at least 10 by now, and I think the theory is that for every person who makes a request, there's a bunch who don't know how but have the same complaint.
> OK, I did what Daiya Mitchell suggested. Who knows, somebody might > even listen. Bill Weylock - 12 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT Just logged on to ask the same question. Can¹t see Daiya¹s response, but I¹m guessing she said to give them feedback. I will.
Is it okay to curse at them here before I do that? No one who actually uses Word for something other than job advancement would add an extra .25² of garbage at the top of an already bloated window. In their mad rush to accessorize rather than improve, by 2010 I fully expect to have little people and critters running around my page making suggestions for new color effects and saying ³Did you really mean to do that?² ³Would you like help writing an angry paragraph?²
On 2/11/08 6:29 PM, in article ee8d0c7.2@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> OK, I did what Daiya Mitchell suggested. Who knows, somebody might even > listen. Best,
Bill Imac 2.8Ghz -10.5.1 Office 2008/2003 - Windows XP Pro SP2
John McGhie - 13 Feb 2008 01:06 GMT Hi Bill:
"It looks like you are writing a suicide note: would you like help with that?"
No, I really think they have learned their lesson with Clippy...
The real problem here is that we all completely misunderstood the Ribbon. I can remember standing in the middle of the conference room at Microsoft Macintosh Business Unit in Redmond and stating categorically that the Ribbon was the spawn of the Devil and Mac users would never use it.
That was before I had actually used it in production.
It took me two months to discover that I was wrong. The Ribbon is not perfect. But there is a lot of very heavy-duty Human-Machine Interface research and thought has gone into it, and as a user interface, it is successful beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
I was wrong. Mac user would use it. Mac user would love it. If they had it.
Just... Don't make it "orange" :-)
You can curse them as vigorously as you like. But if you are going to, then curse me too. They DID ask "users". We DID respond. Very vigorously. And we were wrong...
Cheers
On 13/02/08 10:02 AM, in article C3D7658E.528CB%bill@nospam.net, "Bill Weylock" <bill@nospam.net> wrote:
> Just logged on to ask the same question. Can¹t see Daiya¹s response, but I¹m > guessing she said to give them feedback. I will. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Imac 2.8Ghz -10.5.1 > Office 2008/2003 - Windows XP Pro SP2
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CyberTaz - 12 Feb 2008 11:48 GMT As Corentin says you can't turn it off completely but you can reduce it to being only the buttons if you haven't already figured that one out: Click the same button as the currently displayed Gallery items. For a more permanent solution go to Word>Preferences> Personal Settings - Gallery & clear the first check to open on launch.
HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac
On 2/11/08 5:10 PM, in article ee8d0c7.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> So far I'm happy with Word for Mac 08, but one thing that bothers me is the > extra menu line that appears in print layout view with buttons for doc [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a way to disable this new menu bar. My rule: if I don't use it, I don't want > it on the screen. BeatriceC@officeformac.com - 12 Feb 2008 20:50 GMT I sent my feedback in regarding that extra annoying menu line.
Bea dr.nixon@officeformac.com - 12 Feb 2008 22:11 GMT I truly wish Mac Office would adopt the Ribbon interface used by Office 07. Yes, it is vastly different than the current Mac Office setup, and yes it would be daunting at first to have such a radical change - but it was a radical change for Windows Office users, as well, and in my experience has been far more usable than the current Office 08 interface. There is honestly no need at all for the two versions of Office to be so different from each other. I'm sure I am not the only one who uses both platforms, and I am constantly annoyed at how much there is missing from Office 08 in comparison. John McGhie - 12 Feb 2008 22:59 GMT You, Sir, are preaching to a fairly large choir of converted in here :-)
Please use the Send Feedback mechanism in the Help of any Office application to send your thoughts directly to Microsoft :-)
Cheers
On 13/02/08 9:11 AM, in article ee8d0c7.6@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> I truly wish Mac Office would adopt the Ribbon interface used by Office 07. > Yes, it is vastly different than the current Mac Office setup, and yes it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > other. I'm sure I am not the only one who uses both platforms, and I am > constantly annoyed at how much there is missing from Office 08 in comparison.
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Phillip Jones - 13 Feb 2008 02:01 GMT I was under the impression that at at least MVP here would resign his commission and go to work for Apple if such a request was taken seriously. ;-)
> You, Sir, are preaching to a fairly large choir of converted in here :-) > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> other. I'm sure I am not the only one who uses both platforms, and I am >> constantly annoyed at how much there is missing from Office 08 in comparison.
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John McGhie - 13 Feb 2008 06:37 GMT Hi Phillip:
It's a "Thank-you letter". Not a commission. There's nothing to resign "from" :-) I can't even spit the dummy and storm out slamming the door. There's no door to slam...
Yeah: Well the more I see of the Office 2008 user interface, the more I appreciate the Ribbon. And I am not the only one who feels that way.
I may be the only MVP. But I don't think so.
However, next time you're talking to him, you can tell Mr. Jobs not to worry, he won't be seeing a job application from me any time 'soon'.
Cheers
On 13/02/08 1:01 PM, in article eA8OLRebIHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> I was under the impression that at at least MVP here would resign his > commission and go to work for Apple if such a request was taken [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> constantly annoyed at how much there is missing from Office 08 in >>> comparison.
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C.M.Foster - 26 Feb 2008 21:40 GMT I just searched this forum for this same question! One of the beauties of Word has always been the ability to customize menus. Elements Gallery looks like a nice feature, but I'll probably never use it. And I can't get rid of it? What's with that?
I'm sending in my comment, too.
Poon Tang - 31 Mar 2008 02:48 GMT More amazingly bad UI design from the MBU turd factory.
Must be something in the air in Redmond that makes people incapable of designing good interfaces.
John McGhie - 31 Mar 2008 10:04 GMT I am not sure why you wanted to say that?
Did you think Microsoft would read your post?
Sorry: they don't read here. Just us fellow-users. If you have a message for Microsoft, use Help>Send Feedback to make sure they read it.
That will save us having to wade through a heap of opinion in here while trying to get or give help to other users.
Thanks
On 31/03/08 11:18 AM, in article ee8d0c7.13@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "Poon Tang" <alumis@mac.com> wrote:
> More amazingly bad UI design from the MBU turd factory. > > Must be something in the air in Redmond that makes people incapable of > designing good interfaces.
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