Inserting files in Templates
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Muz - 25 Oct 2007 22:08 GMT I would like to know how to create a template that controls all the files that are pasted into it.
I work on a journal that has between 6 - 8 articles in each issue. I first make a Word file that contains the foreword and index, and, when files have finished the proofreading process, I then insert them into the document.
This is where the problem occurs.
Often, after pasting in a file, large areas of the master document are affected: the fonts are changed, and/or the margins become wider of narrower. A number of these files are from authors who are working in fonts that are not based on the Roman alphabet; that is, Arabic, Persian and Chinese.
What I would like to know is: Can I create a Word template that cannot be affected by files that are inserted? Can I have a template that makes other files conform to its properties?
Any help with this would be REALLY appreciated, as I spend a lot of time going over the master file correcting mistakes caused by other files.
Muz
Daiya Mitchell - 26 Oct 2007 00:09 GMT You can't force the template to stay the same, no.
Margins changes and other things are probably being controlled by section breaks--see here: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/WorkWithSections.htm (hit refresh a few times if using Safari)
What do you mean by "fonts change"? Example?
Do you use Insert | File or Paste?
What version of Word?
> I would like to know how to create a template that controls all the > files that are pasted into it. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Muz John McGhie - 28 Oct 2007 10:42 GMT There are two strategies you can use:
1) Don't paste the formatting
2) Use an Attached Template set to "Automatically update styles on open".
I always use the first method: Edit>Pate Special>Text Only.
I can then quickly reformat the received text using the styles in the master file. This also prevents the incoming text from resetting the margins or changing any other Section-level or Document-level parameters.
You can alternatively make a Word template containing all the correct styles (by simply "Save As" of your master file and choosing the format "Document Template").
Then create a new document from that template, and go to Tools>Templates and Add-ins, and set the "Automatically update styles on open" to ON. The styles will then revert to the formatting in the template each time you open the document.
The reason I don't use that method is that it relies on the contributing authors using the correct styles in their documents, and they never to.
It also means you have to be very careful not to paste Section Breaks when you are pasting (that's what breaks your margins: the contributors' documents contained section breaks with different margins).
Cheers
On 26/10/07 6:38 AM, in article 1193346524.300682.175400@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "Muz" <otlowski@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to know how to create a template that controls all the files that are pasted into it.
I work on a journal that has between 6 - 8 articles in each issue. I first make a Word file that contains the foreword and index, and, when files have finished the proofreading process, I then insert them into the document.
This is where the problem occurs.
Often, after pasting in a file, large areas of the master document are affected: the fonts are changed, and/or the margins become wider of narrower. A number of these files are from authors who are working in fonts that are not based on the Roman alphabet; that is, Arabic, Persian and Chinese.
What I would like to know is: Can I create a Word template that cannot be affected by files that are inserted? Can I have a template that makes other files conform to its properties?
Any help with this would be REALLY appreciated, as I spend a lot of time going over the master file correcting mistakes caused by other files.
Muz
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Muz - 28 Oct 2007 22:06 GMT John,
Thanks for that very informative post. I will try what you recommend. And you are right about the template and authors not following the styles, I have yet to have an author submit a paper that has the correct format.
Cheers,
Muz
Clive Huggan - 29 Oct 2007 00:24 GMT Hello Muz,
If you paste material in from others frequently, you'll benefit from having a keyboard shortcut that performs the sequence Edit => Paste special => Unformatted text.
It's described at page 190 of some notes on the way I use Word for the Mac, titled "Bend Word to Your Will", which are available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website (http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).
[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]
Cheers,
Clive Huggan Canberra, Australia (My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed) ============================================================
On 29/10/07 7:06 AM, in article 1193605574.396043.309840@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com, "Muz" <otlowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> John, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Muz Muz - 31 Oct 2007 00:03 GMT On Oct 29, 9:15 am, Clive Huggan <REMOVETHISoff...@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> wrote:
> Hello Muz, > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > Muz Thanks for that Clive,
I will read through your notes. My problem with pasting in files, is that they are formatted articles - references, tables, charts etc. Mostly, they can be inserted without too much trouble, but sometimes the fonts in the middle of a file change to 'monster' coloured fonts, or the margins of the template file all go out of whack. It is just frustrating trying to maintain the margins when Insert - File into the main file.
Muz
Clive Huggan - 31 Oct 2007 06:51 GMT On 31/10/07 10:03 AM, in article 1193785384.394314.93490@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "Muz" <otlowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 9:15 am, Clive Huggan > <REMOVETHISoff...@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Muz Remember you can pull such fonts back to the style of the underlying paragraph by selecting then keying Control-Spacebar. (I know it's not the complete answer by any means; I know where you are coming from. I use various combinations of these techniques. In your scenario I usually sort out the formatting in an intermediate (blank, new) document.
Cheers,
Clive =====
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