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Problem making MS drawing objects inline with text

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misterdrgn@gmail.com - 29 Jan 2007 04:16 GMT
If I make something in Powerpoint and paste it into Word, I believe it
gets pasted in as an MS drawing objects by default.  This is
definitely what I want, as it gets it at the highest resolution this
way.  However, it gets pasted in as a floating object, instead of
being inline with text.  Furthermore, when I go to text wrap options,
I'm not even able to select the "in line with text" option.  Does
anyone know why this is?  Is there some trick to making such objects
inline with the text?

Thanks a lot,
Andrew
misterdrgn@gmail.com - 29 Jan 2007 04:26 GMT
Sorry, I see that this question has already been addressed multiple
times.  I guess I'll just have to convert it to a picture.  It's too
bad, though.  Even when you do the conversion with Paste Special, you
seem to lose some picture quality, and I think you lose even more when
you convert the file to a PDF.

On Jan 29, 9:16 am, misterd...@gmail.com wrote:
> If I make something in Powerpoint and paste it into Word, I believe it
> gets pasted in as an MS drawing objects by default.  This is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanks a lot,
> Andrew
little_creature - 29 Jan 2007 08:18 GMT
Hi,
To make a better image /picture, do nit use JPG format when saving as
picture in PPT. Depending on what image you have I would use PNG/GIF. To get
maximum posiible information I would resize the image in PPT to max
dimension as possible - to make it bigger, then save it as image and then
insert inot Word and re-size it there to smaller dimension.

You can also think about using some vector graphic editor/if that's wector
graphic rather than PPT which would give you more control over images.

Downgrade the image quality while preparing PDF depends on way how it was
set while creating- such as Adobat destiler gives you the oportunity to set
wchich images will be compressed and how much.

On 29.1.2007 5:26, in article
1170044793.993737.3780@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "misterdrgn@gmail.com"

> Sorry, I see that this question has already been addressed multiple
> times.  I guess I'll just have to convert it to a picture.  It's too
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Andrew
Elliott Roper - 29 Jan 2007 23:20 GMT
> Hi,
> To make a better image /picture, do nit use JPG format when saving as
> picture in PPT. Depending on what image you have I would use PNG/GIF. To get
> maximum posiible information I would resize the image in PPT to max
> dimension as possible - to make it bigger, then save it as image and then
> insert inot Word and re-size it there to smaller dimension.

I was agreeing with you all the way up to "re-size in Word". Word will
often re-sample the image when you do that. It must think that a
3000*2000 image at 72 dpi wants to be 72 dpi when it is shrunk to
300*200 pixels. I find that making the picture the exact right size at
300 dpi in an external editor such as GraphicConverter gets the best
results. There is no point asking Word to do better than 300 dpi. It
will refuse. Bitter experience has taught me never to resize a picture
inside Word. Note. If you change the resolution inside GraphicConverter
in the example above, do not check "rescale". If you do, it will make
the same mistake as Word does. Word does respect the dpi setting that
travels with the graphic, even though GraphicConverter may be set to
ignore it, showing a 3000*2000 72 dpi image, at the same size and
quality as a 3000*2000 300 dpi image.

Secondly, if file size is not a problem, I'd recommend TIFF as the
guaranteed cross platform format for photo style graphics.

Word should deal with PDF for vector graphics, but be aware of the bug
that lies somewhere between Redmond and Cupertino that results in
coarse preview bitmaps of beautiful vector images being sent to print
to PDF.

> You can also think about using some vector graphic editor/if that's wector
> graphic rather than PPT which would give you more control over images.
>
> Downgrade the image quality while preparing PDF depends on way how it was
> set while creating- such as Adobat destiler gives you the oportunity to set
> wchich images will be compressed and how much.

Humble print to PDF gives you an opportunity to fool with that too.
Bizarrely, it is  the Colorsync menu filters where those settings are
made.

> On 29.1.2007 5:26, in article
> 1170044793.993737.3780@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "misterdrgn@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >> Thanks a lot,
> >> Andrew

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 30 Jan 2007 12:50 GMT
Hi Andrew:

The MS Drawing Objects are vector graphics.  They cannot exist in the text
layer of the document.

A document is a three-layer "sandwich" with the text in the middle layer.
Drawing objects can exist only in front of the text or behind it.

Try this:  Use Insert>Object>Microsoft Word Picture...  That inserts a
drawing canvas on which you can arrange both the picture and text, and if
you do, you can align them with each other.

If you want the text to wrap, that's "too hard" because text does not "flow"
on a drawing canvas.  However, you can wrap text "around" the drawing
canvas.

When you paste the picture in to the drawing canvas, click the # on the
little floating toolbar to resize the canvas so the whole picture shows.

Cheers

On 29/1/07 3:16 PM, in article
1170044169.428948.157880@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com,

> If I make something in Powerpoint and paste it into Word, I believe it
> gets pasted in as an MS drawing objects by default.  This is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanks a lot,
> Andrew

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