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Mac Forum / Applications / Word / September 2006fraction formatting
I am starting this new post in the hope of finding out how to turn OFF the autoformating of fractions i Word 2004. I have just looked through the past posts, in this newsgroup, of a search for 'fraction formatting' and didn't seem to find an answer. My wife is trying to type recipes and wants the full blown 1 then the slash then the 2 when typing in 1/2. But autoformating or something kicks in and automatically creates the itty bitty 1 over 2 fraction. I would like to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ area on line. Thanks. De-activating this is very easy in Word 2004: if you type a fraction and Word autoformats it, you should see a blue line appear under the fraction. If you hover the mouse pointer over that blue line, a smart tag with a lightning appears, and you can click on that to be given several options, one of which is "Stop Automatically Creating Fractions". On 18.09.06 6:50, in article 1158555025.755822.280010@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, > I am starting this new post in the hope of finding out how to turn OFF > the autoformating of fractions i Word 2004. I have just looked through [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ > area on line. Thanks.  SignatureMichel Bintener Microsoft MVP Office:Mac (Entourage & Word) ***Always reply to the newsgroup.*** Do be ware that if you choose that "Stop Automatically Creating Fractions" option, you can't turn it on again if you should ever want to. You can, instead, choose instead the option to Undo the formatting (just that one). Cmd-Z. immediately after you see the formatting change (when you type the space or other next character after the fraction) should accomplish the same thing and is quicker. SignaturePaul Berkowitz MVP MacOffice Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html> AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/> Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be ignored. PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using - **2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise. > From: Michel Bintener <m.bintener@NOSPAMmvps.org> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >> area on line. Thanks. ...or you can go to Tools>AutoCorrect - AutoFormat As You Type, remove the che SignatureHTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac ck for Fractions - which you can restore any time you wish. > Do be ware that if you choose that "Stop Automatically Creating Fractions" > option, you can't turn it on again if you should ever want to. You can, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >>> area on line. Thanks. I don't see this option in Word 2004. My first reaction to the OP's question was that you could do it by deleting an AutoCorrect entry -- I think that's how you would do it in older versions, anyway -- but I've deleted all the standard AutoCorrect entries in Word 2004 and the fractions thing still works. > ...or you can go to Tools>AutoCorrect - AutoFormat As You Type, remove the > check for Fractions - which you can restore any time you wish. > > Do be ware that if you choose that "Stop Automatically Creating Fractions" > > option, you can't turn it on again if you should ever want to. You can, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ > >>> area on line. Thanks. My mistake - you're absolutely right... That's what I get for relying on a feeble memory :0 PC Word includes the Fractions checkbox but it is among the missing in Mac Word. For some reason I was thinking that had been rectified in 2004 :( Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 9/18/06 1:02 PM, in article mail-ACA877.18023118092006@news.plus.net, > I don't see this option in Word 2004. My first reaction to the OP's > question was that you could do it by deleting an AutoCorrect entry -- I [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>>>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >>>>> area on line. Thanks. No drama, then: just key Command-z after you type the fraction. However, if you were inserting many fractions of the one type say 1/2, 1/4, 3/4 etc you could have a macro that inserted "1/2" and performed the cancellation of the AutoFormatting for you (you wouldn't need to Command-z each time, you would simply type 1/2 or whatever and it would stay as you typed it). Post back if doing that by macro interests you. Cheers, Clive Huggan Canberra, Australia (My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed) ============================================================ On 19/9/06 9:28 AM, in article C134A3E1.150A2%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net, > My mistake - you're absolutely right... That's what I get for relying on a > feeble memory :0 PC Word includes the Fractions checkbox but it is among the [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >>>>>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >>>>>> area on line. Thanks. As far as I can see you can set it on/off using VBA if you absolutely have to, e.g. Options.AutoFormatAsYouTypeReplaceFractions = True Peter Jamieson > My mistake - you're absolutely right... That's what I get for relying on a > feeble memory :0 PC Word includes the Fractions checkbox but it is among [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >>>>>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >>>>>> area on line. Thanks. Ahh, but VBA will work in 2004 Mac version for now bur when the new version comes on the scene VBA will be no more, We had a thread here recently about VBA's demise > As far as I can see you can set it on/off using VBA if you absolutely have > to, e.g. [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >>>>>>> to turn this off but can't find it in MS's Office Help, nor their FAQ >>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> Ahh, but *when* that day comes the issue of fraction formatting [as well as many other noxious issues] will be [hopefully] far more effectively addressed, and such hacks as AutoFormat As You Type will be a thing of the past... I have these little fantasies every now & then when the meds are particularly active :) SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Ahh, but VBA will work in 2004 Mac version for now bur when the new > version comes on the scene VBA will be no more, We had a thread here [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. What they will do is decide Applescript is far better and implement both on Mac and PC ;-) > Ahh, but *when* that day comes the issue of fraction formatting [as well as > many other noxious issues] will be [hopefully] far more effectively > addressed, and such hacks as AutoFormat As You Type will be a thing of the > past... I have these little fantasies every now & then when the meds are > particularly active :) Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> Hi Phillip: I admire your wishful thinking :-) I am not sure Microsoft will even decide to bring dot-Net to the Mac (it's more likely than not that they *won't*). But that would be a lot more likely than Microsoft deciding to pay Apple for the licence to implement AppleScript in Office :-) Cheers On 22/9/06 9:39 AM, in article #c24vcd3GHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, > What they will do is decide Applescript is far better and implement both > on Mac and PC ;-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> past... I have these little fantasies every now & then when the meds are >> particularly active :) SignaturePlease reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie <john@mcghie.name> Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 There seems to be an equivalent item in the Word Applescript dictionary. Whether it has the same effect is another matter. VBA's demise? Well, I don't know what the situation is these days, but until a few years ago the vast majority of the world's commercial codebase was written in COBOL. I wonder how much of it still is. Do you know? In a hundred years' time, what will replace VBA? HTML? XML? and so on? If you think 100 years time is a long way away, maybe you could suggest what people should consider using for the next 20 years? 10? 5? If I don't want to rely on VBA, what should I do? Peter Jamieson > Ahh, but VBA will work in 2004 Mac version for now bur when the new > version comes on the scene VBA will be no more, We had a thread here [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. Hi Peter: Oh, there was still a few thousand million lines of COBOL out there when we came to try to fix it all for Y2K :-) We do not have a good answer about VBA on the Mac currently. If you are constructing a Mac-only solution, you can of course do it in AppleScript. On the PC, VBA is being replaced by the .NET technologies. We're vainly hoping to get .NET on the Mac, but it won't happen soon. The other drawback is that .NET is designed for a different purpose: to sit "outside" the application and automate distributed solutions. It doesn't really have VBA's ability to easily extend a single application. Sorry :-) On 27/9/06 6:31 AM, in article OOTnDra4GHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl, "Peter Jamieson" <pjj@KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> wrote: > There seems to be an equivalent item in the Word Applescript dictionary. > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. SignaturePlease reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie <john@mcghie.name> Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 John, What an awful message I posted! Sorry. But thanks for replying anyway. Since I dragged us into this area there are a couple of things that's it's probably worth saying. You may vaguely remember that I've always thought that VBA (and Wordbasic before it) only solve one type of programming problem in Word and that what the product could really do with is a thorough reworrking/upgrade of the "field language." I don't suppose there has ever been much commercial incentive to do that and the impression I get is software authors avoid anything that smacks of "end-user programability" these days, probably because of security concerns. But maybe the folks at MS could give that some thought. Also, I'm sure all the new XML facilities (assuming they will get to the Mac eventually) will be extremely useful to anyone developing commercial software for use with Mac Word, but as they stand I don't think the XML facilities offer any real value to ordinary users - personally I found the feature set diabolically difficult to work with when I had a go at creating SmartTags & SmartDocuments last year, but one of the problems with XML format is that you have to grasp an enormous amount of detail before you can work with it successfully. For example, the idea that you can transform a WordProcessingML document using XSLT is great, but then you actually have to sit down and work out how on earth to do it. While I'm sure that there are plenty of techies out there who live and breathe this stuff these days, I can't help wondering whether what is needed is a slightly more "end-user" oriented XML toolset, perhaps even one specifically geared to manipulating XML format Word/Office documents (although I suppose you could argue that Word /is/ that toolset). Or perhaps what is needed is simply a much larger collection of samples of how to manipulate Office XML documents in useful ways using XSLT. . Is there stuff like that out there? Peter Jamieson > Hi Peter: > [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] >>>>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. Hi Peter: Yes, XML is the proposed solution, and yes, Mac Office Next will have full XML compatibility. No, there are no end-user customisation tools out there yet. Yes, there soon will be :-) Cheers On 27/9/06 9:42 PM, in article #tqUIoi4GHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Peter Jamieson" <pjj@KillmapSpjjnet.demon.co.uk> wrote: > John, > [quoted text clipped - 166 lines] >>>>>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. SignaturePlease reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie <john@mcghie.name> Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 > No, there are no end-user customisation tools out there yet. Yes, there > soon will be :-) Believe it when I see it :-) Thanks, Peter > Hi Peter: > [quoted text clipped - 204 lines] >>>>>>>>>>>> FAQ >>>>>>>>>>>> area on line. Thanks. |
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