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Ramblingman - 23 Jun 2006 22:16 GMT I installed a new hard disk in my Mac some months ago. When I clean-installed MacOS X and Office v.X: Mac, I thought I installed everything. I just discovered one thing is missing: the Agenda Wizard.
I use the Agenda Wizard to create meeting agendas with attached forms for taking meeting minutes for the meeting secretary. I forgot that I downloaded the Wizard from Mactopia to begin with. I went to Mactopia and it isn't available for download anymore. And Microsoft's main Office web-site downloads don't show up in the Office Project Gallery when I dragged them into the right folders. Also: Microsoft's Office web-site won't allow Safari to access certain downloads.
Is there any way to make this work?
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 24 Jun 2006 04:29 GMT Hi Whatever your name is:
Just hook the one from the main Microsoft download site. It works fine if you do it in Safari.
You need to go here: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT061995981033.aspx
Click Download Now, then just persist, ignoring all the warnings. This one is marked "Word 2000" or later. For the most part, Word 2000 files work just fine in Mac Word. Anything later than Word 2000 may not, but Word 2000 templates are usually fine.
You WILL need a copy of Stuffit to open the .CAB file that arrives. Stuffit will hand you a .wiz file. .wiz is not an extension that Word Mac recognises, but it's simply a Template file.
Change the .wiz extension to .dot, then open the file in Word. Do Save As and save as Agenda Wizard.dot in your templates folder. You should see a warning about Macros: that's fine, that's what a Wizard IS :-)
After that, you will find it appears in your My Templates collection: if you do a File>New from... The Agenda Wizard will start automatically and run.
Cheers
On 24/6/06 7:16 AM, in article 1151097414.298390.196290@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Ramblingman" <wingsley@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I installed a new hard disk in my Mac some months ago. When I > clean-installed MacOS X and Office v.X: Mac, I thought I installed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Is there any way to make this work?
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Paul Berkowitz - 24 Jun 2006 04:34 GMT On 6/23/06 8:29 PM, in article C0C2EED4.3BC32%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> wiz is not an extension that Word Mac > recognises, but it's simply a Template file. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info (and for whatever led you to discover this!)
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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using - **2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 24 Jun 2006 10:59 GMT Oh, my... That's one of those things that I thought "everybody knew".
Damn! I'll see if I can persuade Beth to put it on the Word site.
Yeah, a Microsoft Word Wizard is simply a VBA macro. The .wiz extension didn't really catch on, I don't think: I am not sure whether they're still using it.
A .CAB file is a Microsoft versions of a Zip file. It has higher compression and longer internal path names. The Stuffit Expander can get them open, the Mac Zip utility can't, last time I looked.
The term "Wizard" supposedly describes an application that puts up a user form which steps the user through a decision tree of choices on the way to configuring a result. Unfortunately, they have digitally-signed the code in that one, which means we can't get it open in Mac Word to steal their code. If anyone wants it, I'll see if I can saw it open on the PC :-)
Of course, the wise people in here will realise that not "all" Wizards are made for Microsoft Word, and the ones that are NOT designed for Word may include bits of PC active content that definitely won't run on a Mac.
Given that we're all consenting adults in here, I can tell you that it is usually fine to grab ANY kind of Microsoft template from the Microsoft Office PC downloads site. The vast majority will work unchanged in Mac Office 2004. Obviously things like Visio templates won't work, and some bits of the VBA will error. But most of the templates offered there have no VBA in them, and even if they do, and even if it won't run on a Mac, the content part will work just fine.
After our whinging here when Word X came out, Mac BU and the Microsoft Office Word PC Team forced the Microsoft Office Word download site to include a test for Mac browsers, and that error page that appears if you go in to the site from Safari or FireFox. The whole purpose of the error page is simply to explain to Mac Users how to go about getting the content anyway
:-) If you go in from a PC, the site is fully automatic if you have a licensed version of Office -- it automatically installs the wizards in the correct folder. On The Mac, we have to do that bit ourselves; but that's not too hard because a Save As out of Word 2004 will only put a template in one place :-)
It is, however, important to do a Save As and not a re-name to get the file into My Templates, because Word 2004 won't use the result if it doesn't have the correct Mac Type and Creator codes correctly in the file.
Cheers
On 24/6/06 1:34 PM, in article C0C200D4.D62A8%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
> On 6/23/06 8:29 PM, in article C0C2EED4.3BC32%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie > [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I didn't know that. Thanks for the info (and for whatever led you to > discover this!)
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Beth Rosengard - 24 Jun 2006 17:16 GMT Hi John,
Just write this up for the site and I'll post it in a second!
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On 6/24/06 2:59 AM, in article C0C34A2A.3BC6F%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> Oh, my... That's one of those things that I thought "everybody knew". > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> I didn't know that. Thanks for the info (and for whatever led you to >> discover this!) Paul Berkowitz - 25 Jun 2006 08:10 GMT On 6/24/06 2:59 AM, in article C0C34A2A.3BC6F%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> It is, however, important to do a Save As and not a re-name to get the file > into My Templates, because Word 2004 won't use the result if it doesn't have > the correct Mac Type and Creator codes correctly in the file. Thanks for all the tweaking of the file, and the info. But this (above) should not be the case for Word 2004, although it would be for X and earlier versions. Word 2004 doesn't require Mac File and Creator Type codes - just the correct extension - in this case - .dot)
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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using - **2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 25 Jun 2006 09:08 GMT Hi Paul:
That's not an assertion I personally would be comfortable dying in a ditch for in a public forum :-)
I believe that the file type and creator code override the extension within the application. The file extension is basically used by the operating system, not by Word.
Which means that if you try this on an older version of Mac Word that does not know about the latest PC Word Type and Creator codes, I wouldn't like to predict what would happen.
This particular "wizard" creates two other files during its run: I wouldn't like to bet the rent on what would happen if there were a mis-match. My remark was more to CYA in the case of "any other templates" that the users may download from the Microsoft Office Downloads.
I've been into the code of some of them: trust me, "error handling" is a foreign concept :-)
Cheers
On 25/6/06 5:10 PM, in article C0C38511.D63A4%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
> On 6/24/06 2:59 AM, in article C0C34A2A.3BC6F%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie > [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > versions. Word 2004 doesn't require Mac File and Creator Type codes - just > the correct extension - in this case - .dot)
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Ramblingman - 25 Jun 2006 02:36 GMT > Hi Whatever your name is: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer > Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 I followed the above instructions. The Agenda Wizard crashes spontaneously and will not allow me to complete a project.
Back to the drawing board, I guess...
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 25 Jun 2006 05:33 GMT Oh, what a pain. It's trying to call PrivateProfileString... That should "work" on the Mac.
Hang about, I'll see if I can fix it...
On 25/6/06 11:36 AM, in article 1151199415.528898.131080@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Ramblingman" <wingsley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Whatever your name is: >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Back to the drawing board, I guess...
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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 25 Jun 2006 07:18 GMT Here you go: Fixed. I have removed the digital signature so you can edit the code to suit yourself.
Oh, sod it: it's too big for the newsgroup. Here, click this link to get it from my server: http://public.jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/Agenda%20Wizard.dot.sitx
The original coders have done a lovely job with this one: this is a commercial-grade VBA application (many of the templates offered in Microsoft Downloads are hacked together by Code Cowboys who would stand your hair on end, but this one was put together by a professional...)
However, since they did not foresee cross-platform use, they did not initialise the location of the settings file called by PrivateProfileString.
I have added a hash-if statement that does this. The code should now run on both Windows and Mac and do the right thing in both.
It saves its settings in Users/<user name>/Library/Preferences/Microsoft folder. Cheers
On 25/6/06 11:36 AM, in article 1151199415.528898.131080@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Ramblingman" <wingsley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Whatever your name is: >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Back to the drawing board, I guess...
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Ramblingman - 25 Jun 2006 15:47 GMT > Here you go: Fixed. I have removed the digital signature so you can edit > the code to suit yourself. Thank you. I downloaded the file and it worked. No more crashing.
You wouldn't mind creating a new "agenda wizard" from scratch, would you?
The Microsoft one is really quirky. It forces you to work in this little window and it is very inflexible.
Thanks again,
The Ramblingman
Beth Rosengard - 25 Jun 2006 19:38 GMT I'm sure John would be delighted to create one for you for pay! That's what he does for a living :-). If I were you, I would just be grateful that he was gracious enough to fix the MSFT version and leave it at that, unless of course, you really *do* want to pay for another.
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On 6/25/06 7:47 AM, in article 1151246829.789124.194880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Ramblingman" <wingsley@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You wouldn't mind creating a new "agenda wizard" from scratch, would > you? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Ramblingman John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 25 Jun 2006 22:40 GMT Hi Beth:
You really do have a future in the Diplomatic Service :-)
You said that so much more politely than I was going to :-)
The version I posted has, however, had the digital signature removed, so the original poster can fire up the VBA editor and make his own.
Cheers
On 26/6/06 4:38 AM, in article C0C4261D.3221A%bethrosengard@earthlink.net,
> I'm sure John would be delighted to create one for you for pay! That's > what he does for a living :-). If I were you, I would just be grateful that > he was gracious enough to fix the MSFT version and leave it at that, unless > of course, you really *do* want to pay for another.
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