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Position Text Box in line with text

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Tobias Weber - 29 May 2006 08:55 GMT
Hi,
in Word v.X the positioning option "in line with text" is not available
for text boxes. The workaround I found is to type my text, cut it and
paste special as word object...

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 29 May 2006 10:42 GMT
That's correct:  A "Text Box" is a "Picture" and cannot be placed in the
text layer.  Use a "Frame" if you want text in a box in the text layer.

A Word document is a three-layer sandwich: the text is the middle layer.
There are two graphics layers, one behind the text and one in front of it.
Text Boxes live in one or other of those.

Look up "Frames" in the Help.  The easiest way to create one is often to
convert a Text Box into a frame :-)

Cheers

On 29/5/06 5:55 PM, in article towb-89AD46.09555629052006@individual.de,

> Hi,
> in Word v.X the positioning option "in line with text" is not available
> for text boxes. The workaround I found is to type my text, cut it and
> paste special as word object...

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Tobias Weber - 29 May 2006 16:09 GMT
In article <C0A0FF21.39BA4%john@mcghie.name>,
"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name>
wrote:

> That's correct:  A "Text Box" is a "Picture" and cannot be placed in the
> text layer.  Use a "Frame" if you want text in a box in the text layer.

For a text box converted to a frame Word v.X only offers wrapping "none"
or "around", not "in line with text".

> Look up "Frames" in the Help.  The easiest way to create one is often to
> convert a Text Box into a frame :-)

The Help is necessary since that button is very well hidden...

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 30 May 2006 11:48 GMT
Yeah, well :-)

If you have an object "In line with text", then the text *can't* wrap around
it.

Similarly, if you set the text wrapping to "None", the object is by
definition *in line with the text*.

Whether "over there" is north or south depends on where you are standing :-)

Cheers

On 30/5/06 1:09 AM, in article towb-B67C3E.17092429052006@individual.de,

> In article <C0A0FF21.39BA4%john@mcghie.name>,
>  "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> The Help is necessary since that button is very well hidden...

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Tobias Weber - 30 May 2006 14:13 GMT
In article <C0A26008.39BF3%john@mcghie.name>,
"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name>
wrote:

> If you have an object "In line with text", then the text *can't* wrap around

Which is not what I want, anyway.

> Similarly, if you set the text wrapping to "None", the object is by
> definition *in line with the text*.

"In line with text" is verbatim one of the options Word has for images.
It's in the dialog box under the heading of "wrapping style".  It makes
the image behave like a character, that is adhere to paragraph settings
like orphan control or horizontal alignement. I can also indent it with
tabstops. Very useful for figures with description.

This works for pasted objects, be it from Excel or Word itself.

I still do not see a way to make a Text Box behave like that. Might be
blind.

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Beth Rosengard - 30 May 2006 21:00 GMT
Trust me, Tobias, John knows exactly how "Inline with text works" :-).  And,
as he explained, you *can't* make a Text Box inline with text because it
doesn't and can't exist in the text layer of the document.

However, as you've discovered, a frame won't do what you want either.
"None" for a frame does not appear to be the same as "Inline with text"; it
does remove the wrapping, but it doesn't make the frame function like a
character either.

I *think* the only way to get the effect you want will turn out to be this:
Create the Text Box.  Copy it.  Go to Edit>Paste Special and click on
Picture.  The box will be inserted as a picture and you can change the
layout to inline with text.  The problem is, of course, that you can't
change the contents of the picture like you could the text box.

That's the best I can do.  Maybe John will have another idea.

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On 5/30/06 6:13 AM, in article towb-39C5F1.15131330052006@individual.de,


>> If you have an object "In line with text", then the text *can't* wrap around
>
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> I still do not see a way to make a Text Box behave like that. Might be
> blind.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 31 May 2006 12:27 GMT
Hi Tobias:

Yep.  You've got it.  Get rid of the text box if you want the content
"Inline with Text", or use a frame if you want text to behave like it's in a
text box.

Personally, I use the Insert>Object... Method myself to hold things together
without using a text box (I rarely use text boxes: don't trust them...).
That technique actually embeds an entire "Document" within the current
document, and you can use this fact to do exciting things such as have
same-named styles with completely different definitions.

You cannot make a text box behave like you want: any more than you can make
a pig fly: they're designed for different environments :-)

It does occur to me that we haven't yet discovered what your end purpose is
in doing this.  Maybe if you tell us what you need to accomplish, we may be
able to suggest a different approach that will work better.

Cheers

On 30/5/06 11:13 PM, in article towb-39C5F1.15131330052006@individual.de,

> In article <C0A26008.39BF3%john@mcghie.name>,
>  "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I still do not see a way to make a Text Box behave like that. Might be
> blind.

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