Docking the Formatting Palette in Word 2004
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Stan Arvkarian - 15 Mar 2006 04:48 GMT How can I dock the formatting palette so that it is underneath the standard toolbar? Also, how do I change the formatting palette's orientation so that it is horizontal rather than the standard vertical? Thanks.
CyberTaz - 15 Mar 2006 12:56 GMT Hi Stan -
The Palette doesn't allow horizontal orientation the way a regular toolbar does. The adjustments presented when you click the triangle at its bottom edge are all there is. You can 'dock' it at the bottom edge of another toolbar or the menu bar by dragging it to the location til it 'snaps' to the other's bottom edge.
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On 3/14/06 10:48 PM, in article 2006031422491716807-stanarvkarian@hotmailcom, "Stan Arvkarian" <stanarvkarian@hotmail.com> wrote:
> How can I dock the formatting palette so that it is underneath the > standard toolbar? Also, how do I change the formatting palette's > orientation so that it is horizontal rather than the standard vertical? > Thanks. JE McGimpsey - 15 Mar 2006 15:11 GMT > The Palette doesn't allow horizontal orientation the way a regular toolbar > does. The adjustments presented when you click the triangle at its bottom > edge are all there is. You can 'dock' it at the bottom edge of another > toolbar or the menu bar by dragging it to the location til it 'snaps' to the > other's bottom edge. And unlike toolbars, document windows will not drop down below the palette.
Antti Ussa - 15 Mar 2006 16:34 GMT > How can I dock the formatting palette so that it is underneath the > standard toolbar? Also, how do I change the formatting palette's > orientation so that it is horizontal rather than the standard vertical? > Thanks. I wonder if it is possible to make Styles-palette bigger in Formatting-palette. I use styles a lot, and it is a tedious job to scroll the palette up and down to find the correct style. If it isn't, so if anyone of MBU is reading this, please add this to your to-do-list for the next Office release. :-)
Daiya Mitchell - 15 Mar 2006 17:16 GMT > I wonder if it is possible to make Styles-palette bigger in > Formatting-palette. I use styles a lot, and it is a tedious job to scroll > the palette up and down to find the correct style. If it isn't, so if anyone > of MBU is reading this, please add this to your to-do-list for the next > Office release. :-) Reason #18 for why I don't use the Formatting Palette at all. Feature request seconded--actually, even if the scroll wheel worked in the styles section it would help a lot, for many people. (Reason #12, its vertical nature, also complained of in this thread.)
Antti, the regular Style dropdown menu on the Formatting toolbar is rather more functional--it will show 12 styles at a time instead of 5, at least here. Even if you don't want the entire Formatting toolbar to show (who does?), you might consider building a custom toolbar for the functions that you use most frequently, and the Styles menu could be on there.
Alternatively, you can put individual styles on a toolbar, or assign them keyboard shortcuts--some headings already have shortcuts assigned.
It takes a little energy to customize, but if you use Word a lot, it's likely to be worth it. Customization should allow you to eliminate almost anything that is a "tedious job" to access. http://word.mvps.org/Mac/CustomizeToolbars.html
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Antti Ussa - 15 Mar 2006 17:32 GMT On 15.3.2006 18:16, in article C03D7DE9.661E0%daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID,
> Antti, the regular Style dropdown menu on the Formatting toolbar is rather > more functional--it will show 12 styles at a time instead of 5, at least > here. Even if you don't want the entire Formatting toolbar to show (who > does?), you might consider building a custom toolbar for the functions that > you use most frequently, and the Styles menu could be on there. Thanks for the hint! I'll try that instead of Formatting palette. Actually this is the only thing, that I miss from Word 2003 on PC. Styles on the Task Pane (on PC) make it so much easier to use Styles in your document. If they only let us resize Formatting palette -styles, that would be a close match. If they only...
Clive Huggan - 15 Mar 2006 22:35 GMT On 16/3/06 3:32 AM, in article C03E0E40.A71C%anttiussa@hotmail.com, "Antti Ussa" <anttiussa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 15.3.2006 18:16, in article C03D7DE9.661E0%daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > only let us resize Formatting palette -styles, that would be a close match. > If they only... Hello Antti,
Further to what Daiya said, you might find some useful ideas if you do a "Find" for "Creating buttons on toolbars to apply selected styles and formatting" in some notes on the way I use Word for the Mac. Titled "Bend Word to Your Will", they are available as a free download from the Word MVPs' website (http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html). Some of the notes starting at page 44 may also be relevant.
[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]
Cheers,
Clive Huggan Canberra, Australia (My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed) ============================================================
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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 16 Mar 2006 01:06 GMT Hi Antti:
We have asked for your idea a couple of times. I have added your request to the chorus :-)
However, if you take a look here: http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/uioverview.mspx
(Yes, it does work from a Mac, I just checked it...)
You will see that the "Formatting Palette/Task Pane" idea has been de-emphasised for the next release.
Task Panes are still around, but they're not used for very much. The good news is that they are now to be accessible to customisation, which they weren't in their first generation.
As you can see, there's a "Styles" chunk on the Ribbon. You can also add as many styles as you like to the Quick Access Toolbar. And you can add new chunks to the Ribbon.
It's going to be a bit of a learning curve, but we'll be able to get the next version much closer to the way we as individual users would like it.
Cheers
On 16/3/06 3:32 AM, in article C03E0E40.A71C%anttiussa@hotmail.com, "Antti Ussa" <anttiussa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 15.3.2006 18:16, in article C03D7DE9.661E0%daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > only let us resize Formatting palette -styles, that would be a close match. > If they only...
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Clive Huggan - 16 Mar 2006 08:57 GMT Hello John,
"Because commands are better organized and presented in a way that corresponds to how people work, Microsoft Office users will be able to easily find and utilize new advanced Microsoft Office capabilities. The streamlined look and dynamic results-oriented Galleries in the 2007 Microsoft Office system products will enable users to spend more time focused on their work and less time focused on getting the application to do what they want it to do. As a result, with the new Microsoft Office, people will be able to produce better results faster."
Oh wow!!!!
Yours in faith,
C.A. Huggan ============
On 16/3/06 11:06 AM, in article C03EF723.31E83%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> Hi Antti: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> only let us resize Formatting palette -styles, that would be a close match. >> If they only... John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 16 Mar 2006 11:17 GMT Hi Clive:
It really does sound too good to be true, doesn't it :-)
Well, it's early days yet. But it certainly seems to live up to those promises.
Of course there are going to be problems. I sell Word solutions for a living: I am going to have to re-code everything to work a different way!
But in terms of our average corporate knowledge-worker getting a presentable document completed "today" -- a document that can be re-used, a document that isn't internally broken, a document that doesn't fall apart of you move it -- this thing is a really giant leap forward.
These people don't have time to learn to use Word. And they no longer have the money to pay a team of "word processors" in the "Documentation department" to fix up their messes. In a corporation these days, the document's gotta be right, it's gotta be now, and it's gotta conform to the corporate look and feel.
You can do that. I can do that. But 99.9 per cent of Word users can't.
With Office 2007, they will be able to.
For the technically-minded amongst us, Office 2007 brings all of the benefits of SGML to untrained end-users.
It really is a huge shift. The "knowledge of how to use Word" and the "knowledge of how to design documents" has all been encapsulated and moved out of the document author's way. They can still go in and fiddle if they want to (probably to a greater degree than they could before). But they don't have to. Word won't offer them anything that would break their documents.
Document specialists can do anything they like, and no longer lay awake at night worrying that the template they rolled out last week is "unstable" unless the users use it exactly correctly.
Yeah, I guess we all in here will have to put in quite a bit of work to help Microsoft get this one right. Almost everything has changed. Getting the bugs out will be a big job. But if we get it right, end-users will be able to stop worrying about how to use Word and get on with their work! :-)
Cheers
On 16/3/06 6:57 PM, in article C03F65A1.1956A%REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au, "Clive Huggan" <REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> wrote:
> Hello John, > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >>> only let us resize Formatting palette -styles, that would be a close match. >>> If they only...
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Antti Ussa - 16 Mar 2006 17:03 GMT On 16.3.2006 12:17, in article C03F8657.31F2C%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> It really is a huge shift. The "knowledge of how to use Word" and the > "knowledge of how to design documents" has all been encapsulated and moved > out of the document author's way. They can still go in and fiddle if they > want to (probably to a greater degree than they could before). But they > don't have to. Word won't offer them anything that would break their > documents. That sounds great, if it is really going to materialize. Is it really so, that writers no longer need to worry about designing documents? That must be some kind of magic or are they just mixing up Word and Publisher and provide users with some pre-maed templates. I hope not, because Word is a word-processor and I hope it to remain that way.
We'll see that within a year.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 17 Mar 2006 11:19 GMT Hi Antti:
There is layer upon layer of detail needed to really answer your question. Let me just hit the high points...
A) When Word 2007 comes out of the box, it will have a selection of document themes. A theme is, in reality a "super style" that instantly varies the look and feel, colour and style of the whole document. It's actually an XML Style Sheet, which is somewhat similar to a web cascading stylesheet. In XML, you can do anything you like with one of those :-)
B) Word will also have a built-in collection of "Document Parts". Cover pages, TOCs, Bibliographies, Indexes, whatever. These document parts adopt the Themes. Users can add the parts to quickly build up their document from blank, or they can start with a pre-built document and add or remove parts.
C) Word will also have a collection of document "Chunks". Things such as Tables, Pictures, Drop-caps, multi-column pages, etc. Users can click and drop these anywhere: Word will refuse to put them in if they cannot work in the chosen position. It will adopt the surrounding formatting when it puts them in otherwise.
These three collections are being created by the Microsoft design people. Microsoft's sense of document design tends towards the garish, so they will probably be fairly in-your-face and designed to impress the easily impressed
:-) However, the ones I have seen so far seem a great deal more useable than previous offerings from Redmond :-)
So, out of the box, an unskilled user can create a relatively presentable document just by pointing and clicking. It may not win any design award! However, the formatting will ALL be PERFECT. No broken code. No munged cross-references. No shattered margins or wandering tables. No broken numbering. It may not look great, but it's built like a Mack Truck :-)
Then the Elliots and Anttis of this world will get to work... As you and I work, each time we need something that looks better than the standard component, we will create it. When we're happy with it, select it and click a button to add it to your collection in Word (or any of the other applications).
When you get a complete layout ready to publish, save it as a template, put a price on it, and send it to Microsoft Office Market Place for sale! If you are a corporation, you would get a design company to create a while set of corporate documents for you with your corporate branding.
Drop the resulting templates on the internal network and it will automatically replace the standard components in every copy of Microsoft Office (Win and Mac...) across the organisation.
Your corporate users can then create standard company documents, properly formatted, branded and correctly formatted. A "manager", who got their position largely by proving themselves totally useless as a "worker", will be able to create documents that can safely be presented to customers without knowing any more about publishing than they currently do.
That's the real power of the idea. If you are like me, it will take you a month or two of reflection to get your head around the concept. The sheer scope of this is breathtaking.
And I haven't even mentioned "Data Mining" yet. That's a whole other breath-taking story. Because the document file format is Open XML, your company mainframe can read your Word document and extract last months' sales figures by product and by area automatically. And your document can read the mainframe and get the warehouse stock levels in real time... That's a whole other story...
I think it would be unreasonable for us to expect Microsoft to get this working perfectly on Day One. This is a transition on the same scale as OS 9 to OS X. Except that that one was easy: OS 9 was well-known and well-understood by everyone, and Unix had been in commercial service for 20 years before Apple got hold of it. "This" has never been done before, and it's a completely different way of thinking. We're all going to have to do a bit of work before we can actually hand this to to our boss with confidence that he won't screw up the annual report! But I think it's worth putting the effort in: it's open source, it's feasible, and it's close to working right now. Oh, and documentation professionals such as Elliott and I, it's a licence to print money :-)
Now: Let me get back to learning how to make document chunks.... :-)
Cheers
On 17/3/06 3:03 AM, in article C03F58F6.AC92%anttiussa@hotmail.com, "Antti Ussa" <anttiussa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16.3.2006 12:17, in article C03F8657.31F2C%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie > [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > We'll see that within a year.
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Antti Ussa - 17 Mar 2006 15:47 GMT Whooa. That really is something to look forward to. Thanks for your exhaustive explanation!
On 17.3.2006 12:19, in article C040D858.3215C%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
> Hi Antti: > [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] >> >> We'll see that within a year.
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