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Printing to a post script file

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andy - 27 Feb 2006 23:10 GMT
I have about a 100-page Word document I'm trying to output as a post
script (.ps) file so that I can distill it into a PDF. Every time I do
so, it breaks the resulting post script into three different files. The
first one always cuts off at p. 78, then I get two smaller ones.

Any ideas why it won't output this as one file?
CyberTaz - 27 Feb 2006 23:49 GMT
Do you have Section Breaks in the doc?

That could be the cause. If so try removing the section breaks. If that
isn't an option you can create the separate PDFs, then join them into a
single file using one of the 'stitcher' utilities out there, such as PDF
Merge, Combine PDF, etc.

HTH |:>)

On 2/27/06 6:10 PM, in article
1141081837.401886.231840@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "andy"
<aselsor26@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have about a 100-page Word document I'm trying to output as a post
> script (.ps) file so that I can distill it into a PDF. Every time I do
> so, it breaks the resulting post script into three different files. The
> first one always cuts off at p. 78, then I get two smaller ones.
>
> Any ideas why it won't output this as one file?
andy - 28 Feb 2006 00:14 GMT
Yeah, I need the section breaks. The strange thing is, I have a lot of
section breaks in the document, even some where the margins change from
one section to the next, but the file only gets split into 3 PDFs. And
it isn't splitting on section breaks that have margin changes. Weird.

Thanks for the help...
Elliott Roper - 28 Feb 2006 00:55 GMT
> Yeah, I need the section breaks. The strange thing is, I have a lot of
> section breaks in the document, even some where the margins change from
> one section to the next, but the file only gets split into 3 PDFs. And
> it isn't splitting on section breaks that have margin changes. Weird.
>
> Thanks for the help...

It can be a pain tracking them down. I give up and use a PDF stitcher.
It really makes a mess of trying to print double sided.

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 28 Feb 2006 11:16 GMT
Hi Andy:

It's not necessarily the "margin changes" that cause the splits.  It happens
when Apple CUPS print service believes the change made in the section break
would require the printer to change to a different paper stock.

Regrettably, "margin changes" is one of the settings that can produce this
effect: but it's not the only one.

Cheers

On 28/2/06 11:14 AM, in article
1141085651.485933.173740@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "andy"
<aselsor26@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I need the section breaks. The strange thing is, I have a lot of
> section breaks in the document, even some where the margins change from
> one section to the next, but the file only gets split into 3 PDFs. And
> it isn't splitting on section breaks that have margin changes. Weird.
>
> Thanks for the help...

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Elliott Roper - 28 Feb 2006 12:15 GMT
> Hi Andy:
>
> It's not necessarily the "margin changes" that cause the splits.  It happens
> when Apple CUPS print service believes the change made in the section break
> would require the printer to change to a different paper stock.

Which explains why it prints in one pass after stitching in an external
application?
And explains why other applications can print willy nilly with page
orientation changes and any kind of margin change?

I'd go for an explantion that includes the words "Word mistakenly tells
CUPS..."

Whoever's fault it is, it is a bug [1]. Anytime I want to print 2-up
and double sided, I have to pass Word's output to Postscript to rid the
work of Word's eps preview errors, Preview to convert ps to PDF. PDFlab
to join the fragments up, then Cheap Imposter to do the 2-up properly.

They have the gall to call it an office *productivity* tool.

1. As per your recent thread, I nominate myself as *the* user.

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 03 Mar 2006 11:52 GMT
Hi Elliott:

Damn right it's a bug :-)  The finger-pointing continues as to WHOSE bug it
is.  But it's a bug :-)

Apple says it's "working as designed".  Yup!  Sure is...  Microsoft says
they "coded it as documented".  Yup!  Sure did.

Still doesn't work.  Still a bug.  And I don't *care* what caused it :-)

Cheers

On 28/2/06 11:15 PM, in article 280220061215088538%nospam@yrl.co.uk,

>> Hi Andy:
>>
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>
> 1. As per your recent thread, I nominate myself as *the* user.

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Elliott Roper - 03 Mar 2006 15:52 GMT
> Hi Elliott:
>
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>
> Still doesn't work.  Still a bug.  And I don't *care* what caused it :-)

Yeah. At the risk of looking anally retentive about this, you and I
both have shipped code originally based on somebody else's ratty doco.

I bet you would have tested your stuff, and worked round the ratty
doco. So would I.

It is not like Microsoft had the rug pulled out from under their feet.
Word and Word alone has misbehaved like this since the first v.X

They shipped with these bugs in v.X

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Chris Ridd - 03 Mar 2006 18:05 GMT
On 3/3/06 3:52, in article 030320061552558724%nospam@yrl.co.uk, "Elliott
Roper" <nospam@yrl.co.uk> wrote:

> It is not like Microsoft had the rug pulled out from under their feet.
> Word and Word alone has misbehaved like this since the first v.X
>
> They shipped with these bugs in v.X

Just as well Apple and the MBU guys talk to each other, isn't it?

Cheers,

Chris
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 05 Mar 2006 05:33 GMT
Hi Chris:

Communication between Apple and Mac BU is generally a lot better than I
sometimes make it sound :-)

However, when it's "embarrassing" and "expensive" (as this one is...) both
companies fall back on the procedure in the Manual of Tact and Charm for
Computer Companies:

"We will tell you only what you ask, except when it would involve admitting
something for which we might get sued, in which case Legal Department will
not allow us to tell you at all!"

In the normal course of events, either company will pick up the phone to the
other.  They have even been known to share the odd cleansing ale together...

I'm pretty confident that the next version of Word on the Mac will not
suffer from this problem :-)

Hope this helps

On 4/3/06 5:05 AM, in article C02E35DF.170227%chrisridd@mac.com, "Chris
Ridd" <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote:

> On 3/3/06 3:52, in article 030320061552558724%nospam@yrl.co.uk, "Elliott
> Roper" <nospam@yrl.co.uk> wrote:
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>
> Chris

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