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Francis Dufour - 30 Jan 2006 14:46 GMT
Hello,

I have a printing problem with Mac Office 2004 and Mac OS X 10.4.  When I
print in colors with the HP LaserJet 4600, the colors don't print correctly
(it's using bad colors).  In other applications, the printer prints fine.
Also, if I print my Word document to a PDF file and then I print the PDF, I
don't have any problem.

Anyone had this bug before ?  How can I fix it ?

Thanks.
Francis Dufour - 30 Jan 2006 14:59 GMT
Le 30/01/06 09:46, dans C00390FF.C74%nospam@localhost, « Francis Dufour »
<nospam@localhost> a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> I have a printing problem with Mac Office 2004 and Mac OS X 10.4.

Oups, it's not Office, but only Word.  I don't have problem with other
Office applications.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 30 Jan 2006 22:32 GMT
The first place I would look is in the colour table ...

Word cannot handle more than 24-bit colour.  If you are sending it 32-bit
TIFFs you will get some very strange things happening.

If you are using an HP printer driver, check that you have the latest
version: HP always seems to take two or three tries to get their driver
right for each printer model.

Cheers

On 31/1/06 1:59 AM, in article C00393F1.C78%nospam@localhost, "Francis
Dufour" <nospam@localhost> wrote:

> Le 30/01/06 09:46, dans C00390FF.C74%nospam@localhost, « Francis Dufour »
> <nospam@localhost> a écrit :
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Oups, it's not Office, but only Word.  I don't have problem with other
> Office applications.

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Francis Dufour - 31 Jan 2006 13:45 GMT
Le 30/01/06 17:32, dans C004DF3F.2B54B%john@mcghie.name, « John McGhie [MVP
- Word and Word Macintosh] » <john@mcghie.name> a écrit :

> The first place I would look is in the colour table ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> version: HP always seems to take two or three tries to get their driver
> right for each printer model.

Hello,

I looked at the HP site and they say that the lastest driver is inclued with
OS X 10.4.  So no driver upgrade :(

One thing I forgotten to say is that the same document print well on another
Mac with Office version X (and the same printer).

Thanks you.
John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] - 01 Feb 2006 01:15 GMT
Hi Francis:

Hmmm...  {Clutching at straws here...}  Update QuickTime on your Mac.

Word actually has "nothing" to do with printing (on either the Mac or the
PC...).  It simply hands the file over to the operating system's printing
subsystem and says "here, catch!".  However, some components in use are
components of QuickTime.

That said, there is a major change between Word X and Word 2004.  Word X
calls the "old" Mac printing routine, Word 2004 calls the "new" one.  Word X
is limited to 16 bit colour, Word 2004 can do 32-bit colour.

This means that if the picture in question contains continuous-tone shades,
Word X will be "dithering" the output to approximate the colours.

Word 2004 printing problems tend to be of the "won't print at all" variuety,
I have never heard of it getting the colours "wrong".  But if it were to
happen, I would suspect dithering to be the cause, and I would examine both
the number of colours in the image and the dpi setting of the image.

Try this:  Fish that image out into a graphics program, re-save it as a GIF,
then put the GIF in in its place.  Yes, it will ruin the picture, but the
"difference" will tell us a lot more about what's going on.  GIF can contain
ONLY 256 colours, so we will see where the dithering is happening.

Sorry...

On 1/2/06 12:45 AM, in article C004D41F.E66%nospam@localhost, "Francis
Dufour" <nospam@localhost> wrote:

> Le 30/01/06 17:32, dans C004DF3F.2B54B%john@mcghie.name, « John McGhie [MVP
> - Word and Word Macintosh] » <john@mcghie.name> a écrit :
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Thanks you.

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Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread.  Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <john@mcghie.name>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh.  Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

Francis Dufour - 06 Feb 2006 22:01 GMT
Le 31/01/06 20:15, dans C00656D4.2B6FA%john@mcghie.name, « John McGhie [MVP
- Word and Word Macintosh] » <john@mcghie.name> a écrit :

> Hi Francis:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> "difference" will tell us a lot more about what's going on.  GIF can contain
> ONLY 256 colours, so we will see where the dithering is happening.

Hello,

The problem was solved by using printer driver of Mac OS X 10.3 (on OS X
10.4 setup).  The driver inclued with 10.4 seem to be broken...
Clive Huggan - 06 Feb 2006 23:28 GMT
On 7/2/06 9:01 AM, in article C00D317F.1279%nospam@localhost, "Francis
Dufour" <nospam@localhost> wrote:

> Le 31/01/06 20:15, dans C00656D4.2B6FA%john@mcghie.name, « John McGhie [MVP
> - Word and Word Macintosh] » <john@mcghie.name> a écrit :
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> The problem was solved by using printer driver of Mac OS X 10.3 (on OS X
> 10.4 setup).  The driver inclued with 10.4 seem to be broken...

Thanks for getting back to us with this information, Francis!  It helps us
to solve other people's problems more quickly in future.

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
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