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Mac Forum / Applications / Word / May 2008Any word repitition software like Textanz available for Word for Mac?
I'm editing a very long document and I am looking for words and phrases that repeat, and I want to do this in one fell swoop, like Textanz does. Any way to do this on a Mac? Hi Nick - I'm afraid I have no idea what 'Textanz' is nor in the 4+ years I've been active in this group have I ever seen it mentioned. That suggests that not too many others here are familiar with it either:-) If you can be more descriptive of what you need to do that Word's Find & Replace doesn't appear to handle perhaps someone will be able to offer a suggestion or solution. It's also a good idea to mention what versions of the OS & software you're using... What's available/runs on one version may not be available in all. Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 5/21/08 10:59 PM, in article 7109bf69-90b8-4684-a010-89cb10bf5132@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com, > I'm editing a very long document and I am looking for words and > phrases that repeat, and I want to do this in one fell swoop, like > Textanz does. Any way to do this on a Mac? > I'm afraid I have no idea what 'Textanz' is nor in the 4+ years I've been > active in this group have I ever seen it mentioned. That suggests that not > too many others here are familiar with it either:-) I'm sure most of us are familiar with Google, however... which provided this: http://www.cro-code.com/textanz.jsp And it does look pretty useful.  SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. -- Samuel Goldwyn In article <copespaz-21F109.07243722052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > I'm afraid I have no idea what 'Textanz' is nor in the 4+ years I've been > > active in this group have I ever seen it mentioned. That suggests that not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And it does look pretty useful. I went to Versiontracker for OSX and searched under - word frequency - came up with these two hits: http://snipurl.com/2a2jr http://snipurl.com/2a2ji SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn In article <copespaz-31E80D.07363922052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > In article > <copespaz-21F109.07243722052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > http://snipurl.com/2a2ji I downloaded demos of both -- not very useful. Nothing like as sophisticated as Textanz appears to be. SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn Go to Word, open the document, click "Edit", then click "Find", type in the word or phrase you want to locate, click the check box for "find all ... in document" and select "Find All". That will re-display the doc with each word or phrase shaded. > Go to Word, open the document, click "Edit", then click "Find", type in the > word or phrase you want to locate, click the check box for "find all ... in > document" and select "Find All". That will re-display the doc with each word > or phrase shaded. That's good if you're aware of a word or phrase you overuse, but often, we're unaware... SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn > In article , ChrisL@officeformac.com > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Every director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. > � Samuel Goldwyn Then, use Grammar Check and adjust the settings for style issues (wordiness, oft-repeated words/phrases, etc.). Otherwise, I'm out of ideas. Sorry. Hi, how about tamz analyser? http://tamsys.sourceforge.net/osxtams/ would this be of use? PtB May very well be the perfect solution, Peter, but see - that's the point... the OP didn't bother to give us so much as a clue about what it is that they actually *do* need, so how can any of us do more than take the proverbial shot in the dark?:-) SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > Hi, > how about tamz analyser? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > PtB > May very well be the perfect solution, Peter, but see - that's the point... > the OP didn't bother to give us so much as a clue about what it is that they > actually *do* need, so how can any of us do more than take the proverbial > shot in the dark?:-) The OP asked if there was a Mac equivalent of a Window program. I'd never heard of it either, but about 12 seconds of Googling made it abundantly clear what he was talking about. It would have been easier if he had supplied a link, but I did... so there's realy no need togo on and on about what the OP failed to do. A clear case of MC's Law in operation if you ask me. ___ "Post in a news group and sooner or later someone will either correct you, denounce the premise of the post, point out some real or imagined error you have made, react angrily to some inference that was never implied, gratuitously provide irrelevant information,* insist that you gratuitously provide irrelevant information, castigate you for the inadequacy of your research (without any knowledge of said research), demand that you justify yourself by meeting some previously undisclosed standard of erudition or education, or all of the above." ‹ MC's Law © ® All Rights Reserved. Worldwide Patents Pending. Reg. Penna. Dept. Ag. "UNDER PENALTY OF LAW THIS TAG SHALL NOT BE REMOVED EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER" *The Schultz Amendment. SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn >> May very well be the perfect solution, Peter, but see - that's the >> point... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The OP asked if there was a Mac equivalent of a Window program. Not exactly - He asked for a means of "looking for words and phrases that repeat...like Textanz does". Word's inherent Find feature does so, but not being familiar with that program I merely asked for clarification of his requirements [the "...like Textanz does" part - Textanz apparently does a number of things] in order to point him more specifically in the right direction. > I'd never heard of it either, but about 12 seconds of Googling made it > abundantly clear what he was talking about. "Abundantly clear"? Really? Both utilities you suggested (WordDump & Word Counter) merely count instances of words, and do so external of the document. They Find nothing within the document nor do they count or find phrases - the 2 fairly specific points Nick did mention. > It would have been easier if he had supplied a link, but I did... so > there's realy no need togo on and on about what the OP failed to do. There's no need for a link nor was one requested. It doesn't seem at all innappropriate to ask for clarification from the OP rather than searching the web only to arrive at what is still an assumption about what was being requested. BTW - Have you tested either of those utilities on Word 2008's native .docx files, or seen any claim that either will work on that format? It's a totally different structure than the file types referenced on either web site - neither of which mentions .docx compatibility. They both do their thing by digging into the file & scrounging around depending on how they're used. Nick didn't say he *is* using 2008, but he didn't state that he *isn't* using it, either. All the more reason to ask for clarification rather than slinging haphazzard "solutions" at him & sending him on a wild goose chase. Perhaps I'm the odd man out, but I prefer to offer considered, responsible replies based on knowledge & insight rather than guesswork. I think it's only fair that the asker do their part by supplying adequate info. > A clear case of MC's Law in operation if you ask me. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Penna. Dept. Ag. "UNDER PENALTY OF LAW THIS TAG SHALL NOT BE REMOVED > EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER" *The Schultz Amendment. Cute:-) but it doesn't apply strictly to newsgroup participation... That's [a part of] the law of *life*! SignatureRegards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > >> May very well be the perfect solution, Peter, but see - that's the > >> point... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Not exactly - He asked for a means of "looking for words and phrases that > repeat...like Textanz does". The subject line of the thread is pretty concise: "Any word repitition software like Textanz available for Word for Mac?" In Other Words, if there was a Mac equivalent of a Windows program. > Word's inherent Find feature does so, but not > being familiar with that program I merely asked for clarification of his [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "Abundantly clear"? Really? Absolutely. It led to the Textanz developer's site. An abundantly clear site that describes exactly what Textanz does. > Both utilities you suggested (WordDump & Word > Counter) merely count instances of words, and do so external of the > document. They Find nothing within the document nor do they count or find > phrases - the 2 fairly specific points Nick did mention. I too pointed out that they were inadequate compared to Textanz. > > It would have been easier if he had supplied a link, but I did... so > > there's realy no need togo on and on about what the OP failed to do. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the web only to arrive at what is still an assumption about what was being > requested. I don't know why you're having such a problem figuring out what he's asking. The subject line asks: "Any word repitition software like Textanz available for Word for Mac?" Is that not clear, somehow? Does anyone else have a problem understanding what he's asking? If he erred anywhere, it was in (apparently) assuming that everyone on this group would knowhat Textanz is and what it does. You didn't. I didn't. hence my comment that a link would have been useful. But instead of moaning about not knowing anything about Textanz (and I didn't know anything about it) I Googled it and posted the link -- the link that described *precisely* what Textanz does -- the Missing Link you might say. > BTW - Have you tested either of those utilities on Word 2008's native .docx > files, or seen any claim that either will work on that format? It's a > totally different structure than the file types referenced on either web > site - neither of which mentions .docx compatibility. They both do their > thing by digging into the file & scrounging around depending on how they're > used. No. Have you? All I did was what I said I did: I looked in Versiontracker to see if there were any apps that revealed word repetition. It returned two hits. I posted links to them for the OP and for anyone else who might be interested. I'm not a software tester for the OP or anyone else. Not my job. I took a cursory look, could see that both were pretty useless and said so. End of story. If you're so curious about how they behave with .docx files feel free to kick the tires and report back on your findings -- or not. > Nick didn't say he *is* using 2008, but he didn't state that he *isn't* > using it, either. All the more reason to ask for clarification rather than > slinging haphazzard "solutions" at him & sending him on a wild goose chase. > Perhaps I'm the odd man out, but I prefer to offer considered, responsible > replies based on knowledge & insight rather than guesswork. I think it's > only fair that the asker do their part by supplying adequate info. As with anything you find on the internet, you pays your money and you takes your chances. I was just trying to be helpful. Apparently I didn't meet your standards. Hence: "Post in a news group and sooner or later someone will either correct you, denounce the premise of the post, point out some real or imagined error you have made, react angrily to some inference that was never implied, gratuitously provide irrelevant information,* insist that you gratuitously provide irrelevant information, castigate you for the inadequacy of your research (without any knowledge of said research), demand that you justify yourself by meeting some previously undisclosed standard of erudition or education, or all of the above." ‹ MC's Law © ® All Rights Reserved. Worldwide Patents Pending. Reg. Penna. Dept. Ag. "UNDER PENALTY OF LAW THIS TAG SHALL NOT BE REMOVED EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER" *The Schultz Amendment. No doubt you will now demand even further justification from me to meet some previously undisclosed standard of erudition or education, but actually I've had my last kick at this can. If you want another one, go for it. Mind you don't stub your toe. SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn On 23/5/08 6:17 AM, in article copespaz-E3014E.16172522052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net, "MC" <copespaz@mapca.inter.net> wrote: > Does anyone else have a problem understanding what he's asking? Yep. CH === > In article > <copespaz-31E80D.07363922052008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I downloaded demos of both -- not very useful. Nothing like as > sophisticated as Textanz appears to be. I looked at site Textanz. Its strictly a PC only program. Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112 |pjones@kimbanet.com, ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it's "fixed", don't "break it"! mailto:pjones@kimbanet.com <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm> <http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm> <http://www.vpea.org> > > I downloaded demos of both -- not very useful. Nothing like as > > sophisticated as Textanz appears to be. > > > I looked at site Textanz. Its strictly a PC only program. Yes. And I'm guessing that accounts for the subject line of this thread. SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. ‹ Samuel Goldwyn > http://www.cro-code.com/textanz.jsp > > And it does look pretty useful. > I'm *totally* trying this out, first thing, once I get around to getting an intel machine. Lots of other new and useful utilities mentioned in this thread, thanks all! > > http://www.cro-code.com/textanz.jsp > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lots of other new and useful utilities mentioned in this thread, thanks all! I just sent them an email asking if they're thinking of coming out with a Mac version. SignatureEvery director bites the hand that lays the golden egg. — Samuel Goldwyn |
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