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WinME or WinXP -- VPC 6.1

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Joel Nelson - 23 Apr 2004 15:55 GMT
I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing Windows ME
or Windows XP.  

My system is a 700 MHz G3, with 384 MB RAM and 120 GB hard drive (on my
FireWire drive).

I'm assuming I should be fine with ME, but like XP a little better (for a
Microsoft OS anyway... but my main emulated OS in VPC is RedHat 9).  Do I
have enough resources to run XP Home in VPC 6 or should I stick with ME?   I
probably won't be using Windows in VPC a whole lot, since all the essentials
are already in "Panther" and most things not available there I can run in
VPC with RedHat.
Tim Murray - 24 Apr 2004 20:44 GMT
> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing
> Windows ME or Windows XP

I would not use Me, period, emulated or not.
Joel Nelson - 24 Apr 2004 22:43 GMT
On 4/24/04 2:44 PM, in article
0001HW.BCB03BF300107C6BF04075B0@msnews.microsoft.com, "Tim Murray"
<no-spam@thankyou.com> wrote:

>> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing
>> Windows ME or Windows XP
>
> I would not use Me, period, emulated or not.

Would XP Home perform better in Virtual PC?  I thought XP would take more
resources and run slower.
Bernard Rey - 24 Apr 2004 23:40 GMT
Joel Nelson wrote :

>>> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing
>>> Windows ME or Windows XP
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Would XP Home perform better in Virtual PC?  I thought XP would take
> more resources and run slower.

True. But Win ME is usually considered as not very stable a version.

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Joel Nelson - 25 Apr 2004 02:39 GMT
On 4/24/04 5:40 PM, in article BCB0B97F.17D2A%b.rey@DontSpamMe.mvps.org,

> Joel Nelson wrote :
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Please reply to the newsgroup, and within the same thread.
> Merci de répondre au groupe, et dans l'enfilade.

ME and XP are actually my only options.  I'd like to use XP but am concerned
it would be too slow.  ME seems to work (it's installed now).  My system is
a 700 MHz iBook (G3) with 384 MB RAM.
Tim Murray - 25 Apr 2004 05:56 GMT
> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing Windows ME
> or Windows XP.  

Frankly I would never use Me, even on an Intel box!
Tim Murray - 25 Apr 2004 06:06 GMT
>> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing Windows ME
>> or Windows XP.  
>
> Frankly I would never use Me, even on an Intel box!

Whoops, didn't mean to post twice.
Joel Nelson - 26 Apr 2004 01:12 GMT
On 4/25/04 12:06 AM, in article
0001HW.BCB0BFAC001A7047F02845B0@msnews.microsoft.com, "Tim Murray"
<no-spam@thankyou.com> wrote:

>>> I have Virtual PC 6.1 and am trying to decide between installing Windows ME
>>> or Windows XP.
>>
>> Frankly I would never use Me, even on an Intel box!
>
> Whoops, didn't mean to post twice.

What about Windows 98?  How does that compare to ME?  I guess my main
question is what performance would be with XP Home in VPC 6.1.1 on a 700 MHz
iBook with 384 MB RAM.
Jean-Miche - 26 Apr 2004 23:02 GMT
> On 4/25/04 12:06 AM, in article
> 0001HW.BCB0BFAC001A7047F02845B0@msnews.microsoft.com, "Tim Murray"
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> question is what performance would be with XP Home in VPC 6.1.1 on a 700 MHz
> iBook with 384 MB RAM.

My Windows is W 98 SE with G3 300 mhz with OS 9.2.2
My daughter gets Me on a real PC and has no problem at all with this
Windows. It's lighter than W 98 SE and I believe you have made a good
choice.
XP is heavier than the others Windows. But it's exist a document which
optimize it for VPC 6.1:

For optimizing XP, this is the link (message 16 in thread):
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=9904f5f72bbaf73e

and also a little software (shareware) for optimizing OS X the same
way you optimize XP.
John Nelson - 27 Apr 2004 09:11 GMT
> On 4/25/04 12:06 AM, in article
> 0001HW.BCB0BFAC001A7047F02845B0@msnews.microsoft.com, "Tim Murray"
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> question is what performance would be with XP Home in VPC 6.1.1 on a 700 MHz
> iBook with 384 MB RAM.

Personally, I would choose neither of them.  Windows ME was the worst
mistake Microsoft ever made and Virtual PC emulates too slow of a computer
for XP to run well.  Windows 98 would be my choice.  Also, don't bother with
XP Home even on a PC.  If you think about using XP, go for XP Pro, it's much
more stable than the Home version.

Good luck!

-John
Jean-Miche - 27 Apr 2004 20:22 GMT
> On 25/04/04 20:12, in article  
> Personally, I would choose neither of them.  Windows ME was the worst
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -John

For optimizing XP, this is the link (message 16 in thread):
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=9904f5f72bbaf73e
Apply this and you will see the difference.

For optimizing OS X:
http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shadowkiller/

With those 2 optimisers, XP works pretty well.
Joel Nelson - 28 Apr 2004 17:47 GMT
On 4/27/04 2:22 PM, in article
785efe42.0404271122.5cafc1df@posting.google.com, "Jean-Miche"
<jean-michel.albert@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

>> On 25/04/04 20:12, in article
>> Personally, I would choose neither of them.  Windows ME was the worst
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> With those 2 optimisers, XP works pretty well.

Would XP still run well (as fast as ME) on a 700 MHz iBook (384 MB RAM)?
Tim Murray - 29 Apr 2004 03:09 GMT
> Would XP still run well (as fast as ME) on a 700 MHz iBook (384 MB RAM)?

"Run well" is relative. Me will probably be a tad bit faster than XP, but
only if you don't count the hassles of Me in general.
Tim Murray - 27 Apr 2004 14:57 GMT
> What about Windows 98?  How does that compare to ME?

I'd take needles in my eyes over Me.  If you go with 98, use 98SE ... it
really is better than 98, and I've encountered software that requires at
least SE.
 
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