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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / June 2008Migration from VPC 6 Windows 98
I just got a MacBook Pro to replace a Powebook G4 that is about to cack. I have been running VPC6 with Windows 98 to use some psychological testing applications. I now need to find a way to make this work on my new laptop - considering something like Parallels or perhaps Boot Camp. It looks like I need to obtain a copy of Windows due to EULA issues (it looks like Parallels transporter only works with Windows 2000 anyway). But my challenge - being pretty ignorant about Windows to begin with - is how to back up the applications and files from the prior Windows 98 enviromnent so they can be restored intact into the new Windows environment. I hoped this would be an appropriate place to ask since my problem essentially begins with Virtual PC then ends with the lack of Virtual PC in the Mac Intel circumstance. Like I say, I am pretty much cluesless about Windows aside from application installation and use. Thanks. I am not familiar with any VMWare for Mac or Parallels I own a G5. For VMWare for Windows though you are able to import Windows Virtual PC with Windows 98 into their VMWare product. I have done this at work with the product on my Windows XP machine. I never tried importing a Mac Virtual PC hard drive image directly to VMWare just Windows Virtual PC drive images. It may be possible. But there is a product call iEmulator http://www.iemulator.com/ that will directly import Mac Vitrual PC hard drive images. iEmulator is a full blown X86 emulator similar to VPC for Mac that runs on Intel Macs. You will not get the same performance as Boot Camp, VMWare, or Parallels but for $20 it may be fast enough if you do not do that much with Windows. You may wish to contact iEmulator support to be 100% sure of this. They are good at responding quickly to issues. On 5/26/08 1:10 PM, in article snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com, "Daniel L. Snyder" <snyds_remove-this_@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: > I just got a MacBook Pro to replace a Powebook G4 that is about to cack. > I have been running VPC6 with Windows 98 to use some psychological [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks. I was quite happy with the response time from the folks at iEmulator. Unfortunately they said that iEmulator will only import from VPC 7. I am currently running VPC 6. The problem is that VPC 7 only runs Windows XP and Windows 2000. So it looks like I don't have a good path to porting my Windows 98 to iEmulator. My brother in law says he has copies of XP and 2000 for me if I need it. But I will have to check to see if the apps I use will run on these. This is getting tricky! > I am not familiar with any VMWare for Mac or Parallels I own a G5. For > VMWare for Windows though you are able to import Windows Virtual PC with [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > Thanks. VPC 7 runs Windows 98 just fine. I used to run Windows 98 on my G5 and still have it on my G4 PowerBook. Do you have a local Mac User Group near you? If so maybe at a meeting someone who still has a PPC Mac and runs VPC 7 cam import it and give you the VPC 7 version of the Windows 98 file back to you. Or if you know somebody locally who could help you out. Just a couple of thoughts there. On 5/28/08 9:44 PM, in article snyds_remove-this_-10A846.20444428052008@news.tcq.net, "Daniel L. Snyder" <snyds_remove-this_@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: > I was quite happy with the response time from the folks at iEmulator. > Unfortunately they said that iEmulator will only import from VPC 7. I [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> >>> Thanks. I have brought WinXP into Parallels from both VPC6 and VPC7. It was a while back and I don't remember the details but it did work. I then had to remove and put in a new product key for Windows. But it sure beat the heck out of re-installing some applications that first wanted us to de-authorize them via a complicated phone and internet process. David > I was quite happy with the response time from the folks at iEmulator. > Unfortunately they said that iEmulator will only import from VPC 7. I [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> >>> Thanks. In article <snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel L. Snyder " <snyds_remove-this_@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: > I just got a MacBook Pro to replace a Powebook G4 that is about to cack. > I have been running VPC6 with Windows 98 to use some psychological [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks. It's not a good idea to transfer applications in this way. It's better to re-install them on the new version of Windows (after uninstalling them on the old one!). This way you avoid transferring files that are already corrupted and instead get nice, new, fresh copies. This is true in any situation, even when buying a new Mac and thinking you want to transfer the applications from the old Mac. It's always best to only transfer your own documents. The increasing use of "authentication" also means it is becoming even more important to use this appraoch rather than trying to transfer applications from existing installations. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) I agree with you that a fresh install is always the best route. At work I don't always have that choice and the results have been mixed. Fresh is always best. On 5/26/08 5:04 PM, in article 270520080904497323%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry" <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote: > In article > <snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > In article > <snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) The applications themselves could easily be installed on the new Windows. My problem is more with the existing files from prior use. Over the years I have scored psychological tests on hundreds of clients using these applications and it is these files that I would like to keep access to for a variety of reasons. I have poked around a bit in the Windows 98 have have not been able to locate files separate from the application themselves. Like I said, I am clueless about Windows, so maybe I am just looking in the wrong place(s). The use of these psychological applications is all I do on Windows. I have no use for Windows otherwise, and I don't think I have ever even gone online using the Windows (although I think I can do it) but just thought it would be better to avoid viruses and such. My needs are pretty simple in migrating some files for only 2 or 3 applications. Just not so simple for this Windows ignoramus. In article <snyds_remove-this_-C0A45A.16442226052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel L. Snyder " <snyds_remove-this_@tcq.NOSPAM.net> wrote: > > In article > > <snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > My needs are pretty simple in migrating some files for only 2 or 3 > applications. Just not so simple for this Windows ignoramus. If they are your data / document files, then you should already know where you saved them ... but there can be a hiccup with some proprietary software that saves and opens files itself and puts them where it wants. You could see if there is an Export or Save As function in the software to put the data where you want and then Import that back into the new machine's application. Otherwise the best option is to look for a folder / directory for that application. You could also run the application to edit the files, then Exit the application and do a Find for anything modified "today" - that will give you a long list, but hoefully the appropriate data files are obviously named. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) It sounds like the database is integrated in the app. You should have an export function so that you can move the data. Check with the maker of the software if you don't know how to export. Boot Camp is not an option for Win98. Boot Camp includes the drivers for both XP and Vista for the Mac hardware. These drivers do not work in Win98 and Apple does not provide Win98 drivers. If your app works in XP then XP certainly would be an option in Boot Camp. You would need a full edition of XP (no upgrade edition). You need to determine how to export the data files from your present software. You can then move them by ordinary means to a new virtual machine. If you want to continue to run Win98 then I recommend Parallels Desktop for Mac. If you can run your app in XP, then I recommend Boot Camp. I run XP Pro SP3 on my MacBook Pro with no problems. >> In article >> <snyds_remove-this_-93F800.12101026052008@cnews.newsguy.com>, "Daniel [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > My needs are pretty simple in migrating some files for only 2 or 3 > applications. Just not so simple for this Windows ignoramus. |
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