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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / October 2007Will Virtual PC run on Leopard
You guys are all positive that the MBU has stopped working on VPC a long time ago, but VPC 7.0.3 was released on 14 Aug 2007, so someone is making security updates at least. What interests me, is that this is a Microsoft Newsgroup and there is no response from anyone at Microsoft. Furthermore, the Mactopia site has no reference at all to Leopard. I asked at my local AppleStore about this today and their technical guy says that VPC will NOT work under Leopard, but gave no evidence to support this statement. On Oct 25, 11:19 am, brianmeg...@mac.com wrote: > You guys are all positive that the MBU has stopped working on VPC a > long time ago, but VPC 7.0.3 was released on 14 Aug 2007, so someone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > guy says that VPC will NOT work under Leopard, but gave no evidence to > support this statement. WOW, you're Apple tech guy is in the wrong profession. He can see into the future. Is his name Criss Angel??? Just kidding. Nobody knows at this point. > WOW, you're Apple tech guy is in the wrong profession. He can see into > the future. Is his name Criss Angel??? Just kidding. Nobody knows at > this point. He could be correct. I'm sure a few Apple insiders have tried it. > In article <1193334985.392717.282...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He could be correct. > I'm sure a few Apple insiders have tried it. I sure hope he is NOT correct. If so, I will have to defer buying leopard, even though my G4 machines certainly qualify for it. I don't use VPC very often, but when I need it, I most certainly need it. It might cause me to purchase a couple of intel machines, and that will take quite a bit more saving, than buying leopard. > > In article <1193334985.392717.282...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > might cause me to purchase a couple of intel machines, and that will > take quite a bit more saving, than buying leopard. The point is moot. Someone will buy Leopard today and will test VPC on it within the next few days. We will know then. Here's an even more compelling scenario: Leopard now includes Boot Camp so it's out of beta. If you have a Windows problem, who you gonna call? Microsoft will not support the OS running in any environment that is foreign to MS (same as Parallels Desktop). Looks like Apple are gonna have to train ppl to support Windows. > Here's an even more compelling scenario: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Desktop). Looks like Apple are gonna have to train ppl to support > Windows. I do not agree herein. The Windows on an Intel Mac runs outside of the Mac OS, so on the hardware itself not in an emulator. Bootcamp only cares that the Windows OS can boot and has drivers. The Windows OS has all the rights on support as long as one buys a retail version. I might be receiving Leopard one of these days and see if VPC runs. But it's not the way it has to be that users themselves have to test if software runs on a new OS. The same to office 2004. Switching to the mac is now a more and more heard phenomenon and MS would bite in its own fingers when not supporting and building software for that group of users any longer. > > Here's an even more compelling scenario: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > not the way it has to be that users themselves have to test if software runs > on a new OS. The same to office 2004. Except VirtualPC is a dead product. Most companies will test CURRENT products under Leopard and release updates if necessary, but they won't bother testing old products. The simple answer is that if you don't NEED to update to Leopard, then don't. People have to work out the difference between "need" and simply "want" - very few people actually need to update, let alone update the day it's released. :o\ Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) I agree with you 100% between the need and want. Personally I want it (and just bought OSX 10.5) but I don't need it. 10.4.10 is working great on my PowerMac G5 and all my older G3 and G4 machines. VPC I don't absolutely need either because I have an old real XP machine in the corner but I use VPC so I don't have to have 2 machines running at times. But to run other Operating Systems like Linux and BeOS VPC is more a need as I don't want/desire to have another 2 more machines setup. On 10/26/07 6:19 PM, in article 271020071119254047%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry" <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote: >>> Here's an even more compelling scenario: >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) So if that story of need and want was true, then we would all still be running Mac OS 7 and Windows 3.x? On 10/27/07 4:29 PM, in article C348C38A.2208%fmh@copper.net, "Fred Horvat" <fmh@copper.net> wrote: > I agree with you 100% between the need and want. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> Helpful Harry >> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > So if that story of need and want was true, then we would all still be > running Mac OS 7 and Windows 3.x? Many people still do exactly that. Personally I'm still using Mac OS 9 on a beige G3 PowerMac because it does do almost everything I need, including running my own business using DTP, print and FileMaker software to do work for others. How you spend your money is of course your decision, but it's ridiculous complaining that a piece of (dead) software that you NEED doesn't work on the new version of the OS that you simply WANT. Few people actually NEED the latest operating system, even more so when there is no software that actually requires it. Every intelligent computer expert on the planet (unless their a salesperson!) will tell you two things: 1. NEVER upgrade to version 1.0 of a product (or a beta version), especially if you computer is critical use, eg. runs your entire business. 2. NEVER upgrade until you're sure that ALL the software you NEED actually works on the new computer / operating system. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) I'm just trying out Leopard by installing it on an empty external Firewire drive. (It took about 50mins. and about 20 mins of that was verifying the install DVD.) After I started up, it asked if I wanted to copy user, applications and network settings from my previous (10.4.10) installation, and this included VPC v7.0.3. I'm running on a Powerbook G4 15" 1.6GHz SD processor. VPC seems to be running fine. I have XP Professional ed. with SP2 installed, and (perhaps foolishly) I started VPC without remembering I had a previous session running. It reloaded okay, and I was able to run my applications, incl. IE, and as I shut down, XP decided to install 5 updates, which it did successfully. I did come across a 'funny', but this could be an old problem which happens under Tiger anyway -- I haven't tried this under Tiger: in VPC press command-H to hide the application. use command-tab to switch to something else, say Safari use command-tab to switch back to VPC the VPC windows (XP in my case, and the Virtual disk list window) appear but the menus for VPC don't you can use command-Q to quit. if you use command-H to hide VPC again, and then switch back to VPC using command-tab, the menus are back, so it's not a disaster. Sayling Well yes kind of true. The need comes in when you are forced to use newer products for feature (debatable), lack of software, or for security. Then again some of us would still be running OS/2. Times move on and most of us do too. Sometimes we want a change of scenery for change sake only. On 10/27/07 11:09 AM, in article C349213F.1924%mbeen@kpnplanet.nl, "Mario Been" <mbeen@kpnplanet.nl> wrote: > So if that story of need and want was true, then we would all still be > running Mac OS 7 and Windows 3.x? [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> Helpful Harry >>> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > Leopard now includes Boot Camp so it's out of beta. If you have a > Windows problem, who you gonna call? Microsoft will not support the OS > running in any environment that is foreign to MS (same as Parallels > Desktop). Looks like Apple are gonna have to train ppl to support > Windows. I tried to DL the Boot Camp beta last weekend and although the DL was listed, BootCamp wasn't found. Darn it, they removed the free DL early. Just because Apple provides Boot Camp, it doesn't mean they need to support Windows. Apple will just support the Book Camp functions. Virtual PC is working for me on an 2Ghz iMac G5. My use case is pretty simple though, just using IE to talk to a stupid bank that require you use windows to access their on-line service. > Virtual PC is working for me on an 2Ghz iMac G5. My use case is pretty > simple though, just using IE to talk to a stupid bank that require you > use windows to access their on-line service. The point being that this is after I installed Leopard. <sheesh> > I sure hope he is NOT correct. If so, I will have to defer buying > leopard, even though my G4 machines certainly qualify for it. I don't > use VPC very often, but when I need it, I most certainly need it. It > might cause me to purchase a couple of intel machines, and that will > take quite a bit more saving, than buying leopard. I also hope he isn't correct as I run it under Tiger on a G4/1.25. However just in case I recently picked up a used top model first version Intel Mini. |
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