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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / August 2007Virtual PC for Intel-Based Macs
I've been using Virtual PC on my Windows XP machine for some time now. Having recently bought a MacBook I was very glad to see that there was a Virtual PC for Macs. I did notice that version 7.0 would not run on Intel-based Macs but I saw there was an upgrade to 7.0.2 available. I misread the details of this and thought that it allowed Virtual PC to run on my machine so I have purchased version 7.0. My question is - is it all possible that there will be an upgrade for 7.0 to allow it to run on an Intel-based processor? If this is not possible does any one know if MS have any plans to introduce a version of Virtual PC that will run on the latter? Thanks > I've been using Virtual PC on my Windows XP machine for some time now. > Having recently bought a MacBook I was very glad to see that there was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks The VPC for Macintosh product is intended to run on PPC system ONLY. It emulates the X86 chip and runs XP in that environment. From what I understand, VPC for PC allows you to run virtual machines on a Windows box much as VMware and Parallels allow you to run XP on an Intel Macintosh. You bought the wrong product. Return it.  SignatureDeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... > I've been using Virtual PC on my Windows XP machine for some time now. > Having recently bought a MacBook I was very glad to see that there was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > know if MS have any plans to introduce a version of Virtual PC that > will run on the latter? Nope and nope. The Mac version of Virtual PC is designed to run on the (now old) PowerPC chips and not the new Intel Macs. Microsoft have killed the product and there will not be an Intel Mac version - it would require yet another complete rewrite. To run Windows on an Intel Mac you can use: - Apple's Boot Camp http://www.apple.com/bootcamp Technically still in beta testing, but is a free download. Requires rebootgin the Mac to swap between using Mac OS and Windows. Runs at 100% speed. - Parallels Desktop http://www.parallels.com This is similar to Virtual PC in that Windows is run in a protected sandbox as a Mac OS application. There is a small speed penalty caused by the Mac OS overhead. This is NOT emulation, but is virtualisation like the Windows version of Virtual PC. - VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com Basically the same as Parallels Desktop. All three of these products are only for Intel Macs (will not work on PowerPC Macs). They also all require a legal license of Windows - you can not use the version of Windows that comes bundled with Virtual PC. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) Well with my VPC 6 XP Pro package it came with a XP CD with license number besides the Mac VPC install disk. So yes you can use the XP that came with your VPC package as long as you are not running the old product anymore. Which if you have an Intel Mac then you can not anyway. On 8/7/07 5:02 PM, in article 080820070902496216%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry" <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote: >> I've been using Virtual PC on my Windows XP machine for some time now. >> Having recently bought a MacBook I was very glad to see that there was [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > Well with my VPC 6 XP Pro package it came with a XP CD with license number > besides the Mac VPC install disk. So yes you can use the XP that came with > your VPC package as long as you are not running the old product anymore. > Which if you have an Intel Mac then you can not anyway. If you bought "Virtual PC Windows XP", then that version of Windows XP can *ONLY* be used with Virtual PC. You can not use it with any other computer or emulation / virtualisation system. If you bought "Virtual PC (no OS)" and a SEPARATE copy of Windows XP (which may have been a special store bundle deal), then you can use that version however you want. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) Maybe not legally but physically the XP Pro CD works just fine on a real PC or under a Virtualized PC. I tried both but didn't activate it just to verify that it was truly a full XP install CD. On 8/8/07 1:41 AM, in article 080820071741013077%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry" <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote: >> Well with my VPC 6 XP Pro package it came with a XP CD with license number >> besides the Mac VPC install disk. So yes you can use the XP that came with [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > Maybe not legally but physically the XP Pro CD works just fine on a real PC > or under a Virtualized PC. I tried both but didn't activate it just to > verify that it was truly a full XP install CD. Whether or not it works is completely irrelevant - it's ILLEGAL and you're not allowed to re-use it. Doing so is called piracy and makes you scum who aren't wanted here. It's a VERY simple black and white choice. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) Well I have not read the EULA yet. But if the license for XP is similar to an OEM license then you are correct XP is tied to the Virtual PC and possibly to the first Mac it is installed on. If the License for XP is similar to a Retail License then it is legal to travel from virtual to real hardware or another virtual machine as long as it is only installed/used on one machine at a time. On 8/8/07 8:42 PM, in article 090820071242197042%helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com, "Helpful Harry" <helpful_harry@nom.de.plume.com> wrote: >> Maybe not legally but physically the XP Pro CD works just fine on a real PC >> or under a Virtualized PC. I tried both but didn't activate it just to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Helpful Harry > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) > Well I have not read the EULA yet. But if the license for XP is similar to > an OEM license then you are correct XP is tied to the Virtual PC and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Helpful Harry > > Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) The EULA for XP as delivered with VPC is the OEM license. VPC's XP disk image won't boot on a PC, only within the VCP virtual environment. This is why it's cheaper to buy VPC with a bundled OEM version of XP than purchasing XP retail and VPC standalone. SignatureDeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... Well I guess that answers it... On 8/10/07 9:17 PM, in article vilain-795DEA.18173110082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com, "Michael Vilain" <vilain@spamcop.net> wrote: >> Well I have not read the EULA yet. But if the license for XP is similar to >> an OEM license then you are correct XP is tied to the Virtual PC and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > is why it's cheaper to buy VPC with a bundled OEM version of XP than > purchasing XP retail and VPC standalone. > Well I have not read the EULA yet. But if the license for XP is similar to > an OEM license then you are correct XP is tied to the Virtual PC and > possibly to the first Mac it is installed on. If the License for XP is > similar to a Retail License then it is legal to travel from virtual to real > hardware or another virtual machine as long as it is only installed/used on > one machine at a time. Oh dear, not again. We've been through this numerous times. :o( The license for the version of Windows that comes with Virtual PC (eg. you bought the "Virtual PC Windows XP" pakage) is ONLY for use with Virtual PC - it is the same as the OEM version that ships with real PC boxes. You can NOT use it with Boot Camp, Parallels, VMWare or any other emulation, virtualisation or a real PC from Dell, etc., and that includes not being allowed to transfer the entire hard drive. If you bought Windows XP separately (ie. bought "Virtual PC No OS" and bought Windows by itself or as a shop bundled deal), then you can use it however you want ... one install at the same time of course. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) |
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