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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / November 2006VPC and IE7
Successful for most?? I've had installation problems, but that may be due to not figuring out how to disable my Avast anti-virus. (Don't work on Windows XP that much) How do you "disable" a program like this anyway? So easy on a Mac.  SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" If you want to temporarily disable, look for the Avast icon in the notification area of the Task Bar (right end of the TB) and right click for the context menu and proceed from there. To uninstall use the Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. Very standard proceedure. > Successful for most?? > I've had installation problems, but that may be due to not figuring out > how to disable my Avast anti-virus. (Don't work on Windows XP that much) > How do you "disable" a program like this anyway? So easy on a Mac. Yuck. I went through a partial install of IE7 which didn't go through because one component didn't install (I'm think because of the Avast). Now I can't do another install because it tells me that I must complete the previous install. Anyone know where it might be or how to reactivate it? I still only have IE6 anywhere that I can find. This stuff is so in intuitive on Macs. What an abomination. > If you want to temporarily disable, look for the Avast icon in the > notification area of the Task Bar (right end of the TB) and right click for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > how to disable my Avast anti-virus. (Don't work on Windows XP that much) > > How do you "disable" a program like this anyway? So easy on a Mac. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" That message generally requires a reboot to resolve. > Yuck. I went through a partial install of IE7 which didn't go through > because one component didn't install (I'm think because of the Avast). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > This stuff is so in intuitive on Macs. What an abomination. Thanks for getting back. Reboot did nothing. Figure that Windows hides the installer files somewhere, but did a fair amount of searching and could not find anything that looked like them. Easier to trash the whole thing and reinstall VPC and XP, which I've done. In a couple days, I'll attack this nuisance again. > That message generally requires a reboot to resolve. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > This stuff is so in intuitive on Macs. What an abomination. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" Try using System Restore and restoring to the point IE7 was first installed (the installer sets a restore point before it starts) or use your backup program to restore your vhd (assuming you use a backup program inside of the vm). > Thanks for getting back. > Reboot did nothing. Figure that Windows hides the installer files [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > >> > This stuff is so in intuitive on Macs. What an abomination. > Try using System Restore and restoring to the point IE7 was first installed > (the installer sets a restore point before it starts) or use your backup [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >> > > >> > This stuff is so in intuitive on Macs. What an abomination. Easier to trash the beast and reinstall. Don't use Windows for much except testing web projects and for admin control panels that only work on IE. IE7 works fine, with the much the same features as Firefox. I don't get the hoopla. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" It's not so much hoopla as the fact that IE7 is not an optional update for XP. It is now mandatory. I had to reinstall Windows on one system to get IE7 to install on it and the problem was probably a program that had blocked the permissions to write some entry to the registry. Even if I had figured out what was locking the needed registry key simple removal of the offending program would not have reversed the block on the reg key. After several hours of excellent support from Microsoft PSS, reinstallation was the suggested solution. It worked. I suggest that you do not install anything but Windows until the system is fully updated from Microsoft Update, including IE7. That way you will not have any problem. By the way, I use both AVG and Avast in my virtual machines and did not have to disable them to install IE7, so I doubt that either of those programs would have caused your issue. FWIW I had a similar issue with an update to Tiger on an iBook G3 and wound up reinstalling OS/X so it can happen on any OS. >> Try using System Restore and restoring to the point IE7 was first >> installed [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > IE7 works fine, with the much the same features as Firefox. I don't get > the hoopla. > It's not so much hoopla as the fact that IE7 is not an optional update for > XP. It is now mandatory. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > issue with an update to Tiger on an iBook G3 and wound up reinstalling OS/X > so it can happen on any OS. I had Avast installed when I was getting the errors. I thought it may have been the culprit. Purging and reinstalling XP from the get-go only took me less than an hour, so I saved myself a few hours of telephone time. I've only had a bad Mac install when the system was munged to begin with, and these are much easier to troubleshoot anyway. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" > In article <OUbJ#ZSDHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > To reply by email, remove the word "space"- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - The problem with the IE7 installation actually does not exist with IE7. It's the Windows installer program that is the culprit. Download and install the new Windows Installer 3.1 (available thru Windows Updates or from download.microsoft.com). THEN download and install IE7. > > In article <OUbJ#ZSDHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, > > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > THEN download and install IE7. Windows XP incessently nags you to update everything, almost every time I turn it on (about once every 3 weeks), how did this installer not get updated during all those updates? SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" It probably did. If the 3.1 installer is not already on the system, Microsoft Update has you install it before it even shows you the other new updates. You would have known about it if the system needed it. >> > In article <OUbJ#ZSDHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, >> > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > I turn it on (about once every 3 weeks), how did this installer not get > updated during all those updates? > It probably did. If the 3.1 installer is not already on the system, > Microsoft Update has you install it before it even shows you the other new > updates. You would have known about it if the system needed it. I know that all updates had been installed before trying to install IE7. > >> > In article <OUbJ#ZSDHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, > >> > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > I turn it on (about once every 3 weeks), how did this installer not get > > updated during all those updates? SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" My point was how you would know whether or not 3.1 was already installed. >> It probably did. If the 3.1 installer is not already on the system, >> Microsoft Update has you install it before it even shows you the other [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >> > I turn it on (about once every 3 weeks), how did this installer not get >> > updated during all those updates? > My point was how you would know whether or not 3.1 was already installed. I agree, the MS updating system is very confusing. But if it was the latest one, wouldn't that have been 3.1? > >> It probably did. If the 3.1 installer is not already on the system, > >> Microsoft Update has you install it before it even shows you the other [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > >> > I turn it on (about once every 3 weeks), how did this installer not get > >> > updated during all those updates? SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" Yes, but 3.1 is a unique upgrade in that it is installed as an upgrade to the Microsoft Updater software and not as an upgrade to the OS only. When it is not present you get a special screen telling you that the Updater software requires updating before other upgrades can be offered. >> My point was how you would know whether or not 3.1 was already installed. > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >> >> > get >> >> > updated during all those updates? > Yes, but 3.1 is a unique upgrade in that it is installed as an upgrade to > the Microsoft Updater software and not as an upgrade to the OS only. When > it is not present you get a special screen telling you that the Updater > software requires updating before other upgrades can be offered. LOL - now you can see why I've avoided PCs for years. Never got any nag screen telling me that I needed to upgrade. > >> My point was how you would know whether or not 3.1 was already installed. > > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > >> >> > get > >> >> > updated during all those updates? SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" Oh, it doesn't nag. You don't see it until the next time you use Microsoft Update. >> Yes, but 3.1 is a unique upgrade in that it is installed as an upgrade to >> the Microsoft Updater software and not as an upgrade to the OS only. [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] >> >> >> > get >> >> >> > updated during all those updates? > Oh, it doesn't nag. You don't see it until the next time you use Microsoft > Update. Just turned on Windows and went to update. It tells me I have 59 security updates to do. Just did a batch a couple weeks ago when I installed. LOL SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" > > Oh, it doesn't nag. You don't see it until the next time you use Microsoft > > Update. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > installed. > LOL And to make it even funnier, all of the 59 updates failed installation after download. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" There havn't been 59 updates recently. You have about two years' worth of updating to do. You need to go to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.general newsgroup and get some help repairing Windows Update. Your system is in need of care. >> > Oh, it doesn't nag. You don't see it until the next time you use >> > Microsoft [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And to make it even funnier, all of the 59 updates failed installation > after download. > There havn't been 59 updates recently. You have about two years' worth of > updating to do. You need to go to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > newsgroup and get some help repairing Windows Update. Your system is in > need of care. Not worth the effort. I'm pretty computer savvy, and you have to weigh your battles. Simple things like updates should work. SP2 works fine without all the downloads. Easier to just reinstall a new system as I have nothing else installed but the system and all the MS stuff that comes with it. I only need Windows for testing websites that I work on and for ActiveX control panels. Would hate to have to use it for anything else. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" > Successful for most?? > I've had installation problems, but that may be due to not figuring out > how to disable my Avast anti-virus. (Don't work on Windows XP that much) > How do you "disable" a program like this anyway? So easy on a Mac. I opted to download the IE7 installer from Microsoft's web site by saving the installer first before running it, and... ... I have had a hiccup, where the installer for IE 7 started running the latest Malicious Software Tool, and asked that I restart Windows. I did that, but the installer refused to install IE7 when I restarted the installer -- instead, the MST got loaded and started again... and the cycle goes on! So... I thought I'd try again another day! When I did, I downloaded the installer again, and rather than save it for running later, I told Windows to run the installer from its temporary directly after downloading the software. This time, the installation worked, although on my Mac, it took about an hour to install! So I do have IE7 running on my Virtual PC installation! Although, I am amazed at how Microsoft managed to make such a poor quality installer! Whatever happened to the antage, "if it works, don't fix it"? Signature-- -- tonza (to e-mail, grab my "UUCP-like address", and translate it to the usual SMTP/sendmail form; hint, the translation is ridiculously simple!) |
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