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What shold I know B4  installing VirtualPC for MAC?

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KB - 20 Sep 2006 18:49 GMT
I only want to be able to run IE 7 and other windows versions of browsers on
my MAC to check web site reliability for our web site, instead of having to
commandeer a colleague's PC laptop.

I use MAC OS X.3.9, G5, 1.8, 1 gig RAM. I have Virtual PC for MAC vs 7. Now
given all I want to do with this, what should I expect re: slow performance
on my mac - only when using V PC, or at all times? Can I indeed download and
open things like IE 7? Do I have to have V PC running when I download this
kind of windows only software? What else should I know?

Thanks much

KB
Steve Jain - 20 Sep 2006 20:16 GMT
>I only want to be able to run IE 7 and other windows versions of browsers on
>my MAC to check web site reliability for our web site, instead of having to
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>given all I want to do with this, what should I expect re: slow performance
>on my mac - only when using V PC, or at all times?

VPC is an application, when it's not running, it will not impact the
system.

> Can I indeed download and >open things like IE 7?

Yes.

> Do I have to have V PC running when I download this
>kind of windows only software?

Yes

>What else should I know?

You can only install 1 version of IE in Windows.

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Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

Paul Power - 20 Sep 2006 20:29 GMT
> >I only want to be able to run IE 7 and other windows versions of browsers on
> >my MAC to check web site reliability for our web site, instead of having to
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

But you can create 2 virtual machines......one using Windows with
IE7...the other using Windows with IE6
KB - 20 Sep 2006 21:30 GMT
Thanks very much for both your answers - I'll probably be back with more ?'s
after I install this Virtual PC.

KB

> > >I only want to be able to run IE 7 and other windows versions of browsers on
> > >my MAC to check web site reliability for our web site, instead of having to
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> But you can create 2 virtual machines......one using Windows with
> IE7...the other using Windows with IE6
Steve Jain - 20 Sep 2006 21:53 GMT
>> >I only want to be able to run IE 7 and other windows versions of browsers on
>> >my MAC to check web site reliability for our web site, instead of having to
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>But you can create 2 virtual machines......one using Windows with
>IE7...the other using Windows with IE6

And that requires to licenses of Windows.

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Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

KB - 21 Sep 2006 01:58 GMT
Well - Took about 3 hours to finally get all software installed and IE 7 to
download...now that it did, my web site plays at about 20% speed, ie, swf
files, QT videos (which don't even load). So what can I do to get this
Virtual PC to run smoothly and correctly on my mac  - G5, 1 gig RAM, 1.8?

Need help

Thanks
KB
Colin Barnhorst - 21 Sep 2006 04:24 GMT
VPC for Mac provides an emulated Intel processor.  Your performance is
always going to be much less than what you would get on a standard Windows
machine.  There are some adjustments you can make, such as shutting down all
your Mac programs while running the Windows virtual machine, but
fundamentally the guest virtual machine cannot perform at anything like the
speed of your PPC processor.

> Well - Took about 3 hours to finally get all software installed and IE 7
> to
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> Thanks
> KB
KB - 21 Sep 2006 17:38 GMT
Thanks Colin, I feared as much...hardly worth installing since all I wanted
it for was to preview our web site on PC browsers...

KB
Colin Barnhorst - 21 Sep 2006 19:00 GMT
That may work out.  If you have several licenses for Windows, you can create
separate virtual machines in which you can use IE6 in one and IE7 in
another.  The problem is that it costs to find out.

It would be cheaper by far to buy an eMachine for $300 or $400 and use the
free VPC for Windows to run a second copy of Windows with IE7 installed.
You would still need the second Windows license, but VPC for Windows
virtualizes the cpu, not emulates it like the PPC Mac version does, and the
speed of the guest vm is very close to the native speed of the machine.  You
could do it with 512MB of ram but I recommend a little more.

> Thanks Colin, I feared as much...hardly worth installing since all I
> wanted
> it for was to preview our web site on PC browsers...
>
> KB
KB - 21 Sep 2006 19:14 GMT
Thanks for the info.

KB
Colin Barnhorst - 21 Sep 2006 20:24 GMT
You're welcome.

> Thanks for the info.
>
> KB
Kurt - 22 Sep 2006 16:19 GMT
> Thanks Colin, I feared as much...hardly worth installing since all I wanted
> it for was to preview our web site on PC browsers...
>
> KB

Which, as a web designer, is the only reason I run Windows at all- just
to see how PC IE FF, and Netscape handle my work - especially since IE
uses non-compliant code. Use it on a much slower machine, too. Works
fine for that, just not very fast.

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