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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / November 2005Need help installing Windows ME to VPC 7.0.2
Hi, I am having difficulty installing Windows ME to VPC. I am following the directions that pop up when you go and create a new PC up till the steps installing the operating system. I get the black screen with the message "OS not Found". Install and OS on this hard drive. It tells you to do it manually if it does not launch automatically. So, I goto the Drive Menu and look for Capture Disk but it is grayed out? Very confusing. I try the reset as suggested and hit a key, but still nothing? I am running OS X Tiger 10.4.3. Any suggestions on how to go about this? Should I remove VPC 7.0.2 and reinstall all of it? Thanks for your help. You start the virtual machine with the ME boot floppy in the virtual hard drive. At the A: prompt you must run fdisk and then format the virtual hard drive. Then run Setup from the ME cd. It is the same procedure as installing Windows ME on a physical computer.  SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks for your help. That sounds rational enough, however I am installing this on a Powerbook G4. I do not have a boot floppy. I only have the Windows ME CD Rom. I do not see an A: Promt nor can I access the drive to goto an A:Prompt. One thing about WInows ME is that is is very buggy and not reliable as an OS. If you need that style/version of windows, I would install Windows 98 SE instead. Much more reliable. As to your issue there, I would check the install CD on a PC first. It sounds to me as if there is an issue where the CD is not booting. Cheers --billm-- www.callapple.org Bill, thanks for the advice. I had used ME a long time ago before switching to Mac. I am happy with the Mac and do not really mind ME buggy or not. Beside I do not have a choice because that is the only PC software other than the slow XP that came with VPC 7.0 that I own. I was trying to see if ME runs any faster? None of this is a necesssity. I just own a copy of Win ME and wanted to see if it worked. I mean Virtual PC touts that you can install stand alone OS's easily. This is not so easy and there is never any support from Microsoft any longer. Thanks Before the DOS window displays 'OS not found', it does not say 'Press any key to boot from CD', right? If so, then you do not have a bootable CD. Check out Steve Jain's site for instructions on making a bootable floppy image. http://vpc.essjae.com/ Thanks for the suggestion, but that only focuses on XP, I am trying to load ME! Microsoft does not support or at least does not make it easy to gain support for the ME OS. Regardless, I do not have a floppy. I would assume I could copy to a flash drive, but if the OS looks for a floppy to boot none of this matters anyway. I do not have a Floppy drive! I have a CD rom drive on a Powerbook and I have a G5 Powermac tower with out floppy drive. I have lived for 4 years with out a floppy and I do not see how I should need one now regardless. No its not just XP. Look at the page and you will see a ready-made virtual machine for Win98. Just download it and use ME instead of Win98. The vm is already to install a system to. Try it. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > Thanks for the suggestion, but that only focuses on XP, I am trying to > load ME! Microsoft does not support or at least does not make it easy [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tower with out floppy drive. I have lived for 4 years with out a > floppy and I do not see how I should need one now regardless. Ok, I have downloaded it, followed the directions but now I am stuck at a c: promt. I can not get it to identify the CD rom drive. What next? Just so you know, the Word file with directions describes the process a little diffrent than the terminology used by VPC 7.0. In order to capture the cd that is in your Mac drive, you need to use the menu for the virtual cd drive to tell the virtual machine to use the Mac's drive. That should start the autoplay function for the cd. Make sure you keep the virtual machine window in focus (don't click outside the vm window). Keep in mind I use VPC on a PC and what you are seeing on your Mac may be slightly different than what I would see here. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > Ok, I have downloaded it, followed the directions but now I am stuck at > a c: promt. I can not get it to identify the CD rom drive. What next? > Just so you know, the Word file with directions describes the process > a little diffrent than the terminology used by VPC 7.0. Just curious, why would you use VPC on a PC? Could you not use some other software to partition the drive and assist you in launching those other OS's. Thought Partition Magic did that? I do not really use VPC all that much. I had VPC 5, skiped 6 and waited for 7. I enjoy my Macs because I do not need to deal with a lot of this DOS lingo any longer and fiddle around trying to get stuff to work. I just had an ME disk laying around and wanted to see if I could get it installed and if there was any speed boost over XP if I needed to test websites out in IE on a PC platform. I got the OS installed, but I left the CD Rom in the drive when ME rebooted. Then I had to reinstall. I am not sure if the reinstall was caused because the disk was still in the drive or if because it does not recognize ME and only sees Win98SE Package Hard Disk from the download on Steve Jains site. I will let it install this second time, pop out the CD and see what happens. Worst case, I wasted a few hours trying something futile. Well, it did not work. Seems to be some problem now where it is in a loop. It keeps going back to the downloaded folder Win98SE Package Hard Disk? Very confusing and this program does not really do what it is intended to do. It should simply identify or allow you to click the setup icon on the CD Rom and install onto the drive. I have had no problem with auto run for Office install on the XP VM. I really do not understand why this is so difficult? ME is not a program with an icon. It is an OS. Once the OS is running you need to remove the cd. It sounds like the looping you are talking about may be the result of your following an instruction in a loop. This would be the case if you are seeing a message like "hit any key to boot from cd...". You should only do that the very first time you start the installation. Afterwards simply let the message time out so that the vm boots from the virtual hard drive to continue the installation. This is a common mistake. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > Well, it did not work. Seems to be some problem now where it is in a > loop. It keeps going back to the downloaded folder Win98SE Package [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > problem with auto run for Office install on the XP VM. I really do not > understand why this is so difficult? I am aware that ME is an OS. I removed the CD before I restarted the OS. It recycles back to an A: prompt. At this point I do not know if the OS took or not. I goto the C: prompt and type in DIR and it says windows DIR is present. I then type WIN, windows, windowsme, winme and nothing. I think what makes things difficult to discuss here are that we are running two diffrent platforms. VPC for a PC and VPC for a Mac have quite a few minor diffrences. Additionally, it make is hard to understand because you can not see what is actually happening on my machine. Anyway, it was a noble effort. I do truly appreciate the time and effort in trying to assist me. Kindly, Adam You also need to eject the floppy image from the virtual floppy drive. The virtual floppy drive has a higher boot priority than the virtual hard drive, as it would on a regular pc. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) >I am aware that ME is an OS. I removed the CD before I restarted the > OS. It recycles back to an A: prompt. At this point I do not know if [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Adam This sounds like you're trying to use an OEM CD. Or a Recovery CD. These are not bootable and there is no 'setup.exe' to click on with those Cds If an OEM is a Retail Box version than yes, that is what I am using. I had pruchased a full retail box version of MS Windows ME 6 years ago. I thought that this could be installed. I only have the CD Rom. No boot floppy. Can this even be installed? If so, what is the correct process to VPC 7.0.2 on Mac OS X Tiger? Thanks! Yes it can be done. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > If an OEM is a Retail Box version than yes, that is what I am using. I > had pruchased a full retail box version of MS Windows ME 6 years ago. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks! If an OEM is a Retail Box version .......No, it is not. OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. Basically, this means that if you bought a PC with Windows already installed (like on a Dell, IBM, HP or Compaq PC), the Windows OS is actually licensed to the manufacturer and cannot legally be installed on any other computer. A 'retail' version of Windows is the version that you would purchase separately from a vendor. That is what I thought. It was a full retail version of Windows ME that I purchased. It did not come with a machine. Once ME is installed it makes no difference that the Win98 floppy was ever involved. It also makes no difference where the base vm came from or what it was called. All you probably had to do was cancel the second installation at the beginning and eject the cd. The reason for VPC on a PC is to run legacy operating systems without having to partition the host hard drive or reboot the system. VPC allows simultaneous running of different operating systems; as many as resources allow. I sometimes run four or five virtual machine at a time and have over two dozen different x86 operating systems in virtual machines which I can run in seconds. Partition Magic is only for creating partitions for multibooting operating systems, of which only one can run at a time. With VPC programs like Partition Magic are not needed. While I am typing this in Outlook Express on my XP Pro machine, I am installing a Linux distribution on a new virtual machine in a another window on the same XP desktop. I could not do that if I have to switch operating systems the old way by rebooting the machine. Anyway, glad you got through the installation of ME and have a better idea of what is going on. SignatureColin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > Just curious, why would you use VPC on a PC? Could you not use some > other software to partition the drive and assist you in launching those [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I will let it install this second time, pop out the CD and see what > happens. Worst case, I wasted a few hours trying something futile. |
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