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VM increases in size slightly..why?

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Friendly_Aussie - 28 Oct 2005 23:33 GMT
I'm using VPC 7 with XP Home SP2. I have AVG AV installed and use
Erasure successfully to zero data and then reclaim disk space.

I'm just wondering however, my VM size was 2.02 GB yesterday I accessed
the net and browsed to my .Mac sign in page which I then bookmarked and
saved as my default "home" in IE. I then browsed to MSN.com and
bookmarked that as well. In my favourites folder I created 2 new
folders one called Apple the other Microsoft. Now I have cookies turned
off in IE and I haven't downloaded anything. I then did a virus scan
and everything came up safe and clean. But when I checked the size of
my VM is has increased from 2.02GB to 2.06GB, how could that be??
Steve Jain - 28 Oct 2005 23:42 GMT
>I'm using VPC 7 with XP Home SP2. I have AVG AV installed and use
>Erasure successfully to zero data and then reclaim disk space.
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>and everything came up safe and clean. But when I checked the size of
>my VM is has increased from 2.02GB to 2.06GB, how could that be??

Because every time you run Windows, files are changed, and replaced.
This as well as the paging file are modified every time you run
Windows.  

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Friendly_Aussie - 29 Oct 2005 00:24 GMT
> Because every time you run Windows, files are changed, and replaced.
> This as well as the paging file are modified every time you run
> Windows.

Oh?? Is this a problem? Can I reduce the size increase of this process
or should I just do my periodic maintenance of Disk Utility (cleanup or
what ever it's called), Defragmentation, Erasure, Reclaim Disk Space?
Paul Power - 29 Oct 2005 01:17 GMT
Your virtual machine will grow with each session. When it gets to 15GB,
you will have a problem on your hands and will need to run Eraser and
reclaim unused disk space. Obviously, you would be better served if you
did it before it gets that large.

Now, the question is: How long will it take you to get to 15GB? If
you're not installing a lot of applications, downloading huge music
files, etc., it should take you a very long time to get to that
critical point. Do you want to go thru defrag and Eraser just to
reclaim a few MB of disk space? I wouldn't but it's your choice.....
Friendly_Aussie - 29 Oct 2005 09:41 GMT
> Your virtual machine will grow with each session. When it gets to 15GB,
> Now, the question is: How long will it take you to get to 15GB? If
> you're not installing a lot of applications, downloading huge music
> files, etc., it should take you a very long time to get to that
> critical point. Do you want to go thru defrag and Eraser just to
> reclaim a few MB of disk space? I wouldn't but it's your choice.....

Well obviously I won't be doing that for a few MB ??? I was just
wondering why the increase is all as I haven't installed anything and
have no intention doing so. You've answered that question successfully.
I'm guessing, being MS, there is no way to prevent or lessen this
occurring in the first place (which was my second question).
Steve Jain - 29 Oct 2005 20:41 GMT
>> Your virtual machine will grow with each session. When it gets to 15GB,
>> Now, the question is: How long will it take you to get to 15GB? If
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>I'm guessing, being MS, there is no way to prevent or lessen this
>occurring in the first place (which was my second question).

No, you can't prevent Windows from updating files each time it boots
up.  FYI, Mac OS X does this as well, as well as manages a swap file.
The only reason you see this happening in Windows is because its
emulated.  You won't notice this behavior on a physical Windows
computer, just like you don't on a Mac.

The only way you could except to see this behavior reduced is if MS
completely rewrote the Windows file system for VPC-Mac, which is
probably less than 1% of Windows sales.

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