Is it possible that Virtual PC7 would allow my kids to play windows
based games on a G5 Mini. The games that they play now are running on
a 6 year old laptop running Win98. For Example (game)Backyard Baseball
2004.
Thanks.
Bill Leeper - 17 Jan 2005 23:09 GMT
> Is it possible that Virtual PC7 would allow my kids to play windows
> based games on a G5 Mini. The games that they play now are running on
> a 6 year old laptop running Win98. For Example (game)Backyard Baseball
> 2004.
>
> Thanks.
Not if they require DirectX. I do have the old version of LodeRunner
working in VPC but had to turn off the music to make it play at a decent
speed.
Bill
Michael Koenig - 18 Jan 2005 00:53 GMT
> Not if they require DirectX.
I guess you mean Direct3D, because DirectX isn't really the problem.

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Unseelie - 20 Jan 2005 20:15 GMT
More accurately, not if they require 3D Hardware support (such as
Direct 3D or OpenGL). Direct X is much more than just Direct 3D.
Michael Koenig - 18 Jan 2005 01:01 GMT
> Is it possible that Virtual PC7 would allow my kids to play windows
> based games on a G5 Mini.
Actually the Mac mini has a G4 (either 1.25 or 1.42 GHz), the current
iMac has a G5 (1.6 or 1.8 GHz).
> The games that they play now are running on
> a 6 year old laptop running Win98.
It depends very much on the needs of the game and how has the emulator
can run on the Mac.
Games that need 3D graphics (practically every game that needs more than
4MB video RAM) won't run at all.
I was able to play Grim Fandango via VPC7 on my 2GHz G5. That game needs
a 133MHz Pentium according to LucasArts. I'd say anything that needs
more than 150MHz and tries to use sound and graphics at the same time
wouldn't run properly on my Mac.
Also for games I recommend Windows 98, because it seems to provide
better performance in that respect when compared to Windows 2000 or
Windows XP.
> For Example (game)Backyard Baseball 2004.
I don't know the game, but it seems to be quite new, so I assume it
probably doesn't work, but you should check the requirements.

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John McGhie - 29 Jan 2005 07:48 GMT
Almost certainly not :-)
Your kids may be able to play their old games, but not the new ones they
will want next week. I would consider it very risky to allow them to
install "old" Windows 9.x games these days. Those old games used to install
all sorts of teaks to low-level drivers such as the graphics drivers to get
more speed out of Windows. This sort of thing caused many a Windows
installation to become very unstable.
VPC does not supply sufficient system resource to run most PC games on a
very fast Mac. The Mac Mini is NOT "very fast" :-)
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On 18/1/05 8:12 AM, in article
1105996359.639724.278840@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Jerry101"
<Jerry.Hermes@UOP.com> wrote:
> Is it possible that Virtual PC7 would allow my kids to play windows
> based games on a G5 Mini. The games that they play now are running on
> a 6 year old laptop running Win98. For Example (game)Backyard Baseball
> 2004.
>
> Thanks.

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Helpful Harry - 29 Jan 2005 20:29 GMT
> On 18/1/05 8:12 AM, in article
> 1105996359.639724.278840@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Jerry101"
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> VPC does not supply sufficient system resource to run most PC games on a
> very fast Mac. The Mac Mini is NOT "very fast" :-)
The Mac Mini is also not a G5 - it's a G4. :o)
Virtual PC is not designed for playing games (or other software) that
requires a 3D graphics accelerator, which rules out pretty much every
game for about the last five years or so.
Having said that, *old* games that don't need 3D often do work ok-ish,
if running slowly. I have had a demo of Jedi Knight running on my beige
G3 with Virtual PC 3 that was ALMOST playable. I've also had Commandos
running on the same system and it was pretty playable.
* BUT *
I wouldn't buy Virtual PC for playing any games - it's fairly expensive
just to find out it wont work. You probably better off (and it's
probably cheaper) to get a decent second-hand Windows PC instead.
Perhaps wait for the next version (Virtual PC 8) which is reportedly
going to access the Mac's 3D graphics card and should run older games
faster - plus by then we'll have G6 computers that will also be faster
at emulating the PC. :o)
Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)
Michael Paine - 29 Jan 2005 21:11 GMT
John
You only have a slim chance of installing and running games in VPC.
On the other hand, you can set up a new Virtual PC just for Windows 98
and its games and use it just for that. If a games messes up the
Operating System (ie Win98) then scrap the vpc file and start again.
That is one advantage of a VIRTUAL PC compared with a real PC.
To keep the kids happy you might look at going further back and get some
old DOS games. There is freeware to enable you to run these under OS X
without VPC/Windows - for example DOSBOX. See
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/aoaug/mac_osx.html#dosbox
Michael Paine
>>On 18/1/05 8:12 AM, in article
>>1105996359.639724.278840@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Jerry101"
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> Helpful Harry
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)