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Mac Forum / Applications / Virtual PC / January 2005VPC Operating System Installation
I just bought VPC 7 (no OS), installed, upgraded to 7.0.1 but cannot install the OS. I first tried my old VPC 4.0 disk with Windows 98 CD and it did not even capture the disc (it does not even show the contents of the disc when I force manual capture). I have been trying to install XP Pro from my PC disk and that does not work either. As directed in the help screen: - I see the "OS not found. Install an OS on this hard drive" on the black screen - I click Reset (twice) as described but "Press any key to boot from CD" never shows up, instead I get: "OS not found. Install an OS on this hard drive" again, followed by "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device" Since there is no way one can contact MS for help without coughing up additional money, I would really appreciate it if anyone could help. Thank you very much. > I just bought VPC 7 (no OS), installed, upgraded to 7.0.1 but cannot > install the OS. I first tried my old VPC 4.0 disk with Windows 98 CD [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > additional money, I would really appreciate it if anyone could help. > Thank you very much. I just posted this same problem, so if someone could help us out that would be great. I also tried to install Red Hat Linux for a test, but it also failed for the same above reason. Please help... >I just bought VPC 7 (no OS), installed, upgraded to 7.0.1 but cannot >install the OS. I first tried my old VPC 4.0 disk with Windows 98 CD [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >additional money, I would really appreciate it if anyone could help. >Thank you very much. Please do a little research before posting. There are several threads on this. I just posted the link to MS support, where you get to incidents at no charge. http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=2958 I also have instructions for using a VPC 4 cd-rom with VPC 6. Most of these instructions will work with VPC 7. Is your XP cd-rom bootable, is it a retail cd-rom or one that came with a PC.. If it came with a PC its not legal to install in VPC and unlikely to work with VPC since its an OEM version. Steve Jain, Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC for Windows Website: http://www.essjae.com *** All posts are provided AS-IS, no warranty, no QoS *** > I just bought VPC 7 (no OS), installed, upgraded to 7.0.1 but cannot > install the OS. I first tried my old VPC 4.0 disk with Windows 98 CD [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected > Boot device" As has been reiterated so many times that it hurts, both on this newsgroup (for Macs) and others (making much the same mistake on PCs, using Virtual PC for Windows) this is precisely what would happen if you inserted a Win'98 CD into a brand new PC with an unformatted C: drive. Please boot from a bootable floppy drive (or a bootable floppy drive image, when using VPC), format your C: drive, and proceed just as one would normally have to on a brand new PC with an unformatted drive with no software on it. In general, treat any issue on a Virtual PC just the way you would on an identical hardware PC containing facing the same situation. In particular, for Win'98 see: http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/vpcfaq/VPCFAQ6-InstallingGuestOS.html with particular attention to question 6.a.7. There are links to many other FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) there, for both the Windows and Mac version of VPC. >> I just bought VPC 7 (no OS), installed, upgraded to 7.0.1 but cannot >> install the OS. I first tried my old VPC 4.0 disk with Windows 98 CD [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >There are links to many other FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) there, for >both the Windows and Mac version of VPC. Actually, VPC7 will create a pre-formatted VHD for Win9x hosts (FAT16 or FAT32), unlike VPC2004, so all you really need is a Win98 cd-rom and a Win98 floppy disk (or disk image.) Win98 bootable disks can be found on my website. Steve Jain, Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC for Windows Website: http://www.essjae.com *** All posts are provided AS-IS, no warranty, no QoS *** I think I have not included in my initial posting that I am talking Mac, not PC. My apologies. Frankly, I was not aware that this software is made for PC as well. Sorry. After spending a few hours, I figured out how to install Windows 98 from my old VPC 4 (for Mac) disk but the XP Pro disk for PC still does not work and behaves as I described in my posting (it is a stand-alone disk, not configured for a specific PC -- Steve had asked this). For those Mac people who may have the same problem trying to install Windows 98 from a VPC 4 or 5 disk: Install VPC 4 to your Classic environment together with Windows 98 that comes on the disk. You won't be able to open this even in Classic but that is OK. Then, install your new VPC 7. Quit and restart. Then use "import PC from previous version" command and show the VPC 4 on the computer. It stumbles and tumbles but somehow gets the basic stuff installed. You are going to get dozens of obscure missing item messages, I clicked "skip" to all. I intend to use only the Office, therefore those skips don't seem to matter. Otherwise, all installation info included with VPC for Mac regarding this issue is worthless or wrong. Another regretful but highly expected MS mess, in short, from my point of view. I would be happy if someone could figure out how to install the XP into VPC 7 for Mac, from a stand-alone XP CD. The directions in the help file don't work. >I think I have not included in my initial posting that I am talking >Mac, not PC. My apologies. Frankly, I was not aware that this software [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >not work and behaves as I described in my posting (it is a stand-alone >disk, not configured for a specific PC -- Steve had asked this). There's basic instructions for this on my site (for VPC6,but getting the disk image to your Mac is the same). You only need to install the disk image for VPC4, do a custom install. >For those Mac people who may have the same problem trying to install >Windows 98 from a VPC 4 or 5 disk: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >messages, I clicked "skip" to all. I intend to use only the Office, >therefore those skips don't seem to matter. Yes, you will get errors, the same thing would happen on a real PC, Windows is expecting the particular hardware that VPC4 emulated and is actually finding VPC7 hardware and installing new drivers. >Otherwise, all installation info included with VPC for Mac regarding >this issue is worthless or wrong. Another regretful but highly expected >MS mess, in short, from my point of view. I would be happy if someone >could figure out how to install the XP into VPC 7 for Mac, from a >stand-alone XP CD. The directions in the help file don't work. If you have a retail XP cd-rom, once its captured by VPC you can boot of of it and install XP. If youre XP cd-rom isn't legal, an OEM version, copied, etc its probably not going to work correctly. If its an upgrade its going to ask for proof you own a previous version of Windows. Steve Jain, Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC for Windows Website: http://www.essjae.com *** All posts are provided AS-IS, no warranty, no QoS *** Microsoft tech support told me on the phone that if I have the OEM updgrade disks (Windows ME to Windows XP), that the standalone version of VPC7 would install OK on my G5 Mac. On 12/15/04 7:56 PM, in article oj12s0pau8acngkkims78r90gouak81kc2@4ax.com, a >> stand-alone XP CD. The directions in the help file don't work. > If you have a retail XP cd-rom, once its captured by VPC you can boot [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Website: http://www.essjae.com > *** All posts are provided AS-IS, no warranty, no QoS *** The problem is, the installation gets to the point where it's asking for the original Windows ME disks and I never got these with the PC as it was pre-installed on the Vaio PC. Any suggestions? Thanks, Michel >Microsoft tech support told me on the phone that if I have the OEM updgrade >disks (Windows ME to Windows XP), that the standalone version of VPC7 would [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >original Windows ME disks and I never got these with the PC as it was >pre-installed on the Vaio PC. Well, an OEM license is only legal on the machine its purchased with. I'm surprised that MS support is telling you its legal and ok to do. Without a previous version of Windows, your upgrade isn't going to install in VPC.  SignatureSteve Jain, Virtual PC for Windows MVP Website: http://www.essjae.com "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. You assume all risk for your use." As Steve says, you may be pooched... However, an OEM who does not supply disks should leave the install source for the operating system on the hard disk of the machine. It may be in a separate partition, and it may be marked as hidden, but it should be there. If you were to copy that source (for Windows ME) across to your Mac, and browse to it when VPC asks for it, it may work. It's a lot of copying, and a low probability of success. Sorry: OEM versions are cheap because they are designed to prevent this kind of operation. Cheers On 19/1/05 1:14 AM, in article BE1259CA.4DB4%michael@imageinevideo.com, > Microsoft tech support told me on the phone that if I have the OEM updgrade > disks (Windows ME to Windows XP), that the standalone version of VPC7 would [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Thanks, > Michel SignaturePlease reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie <john@mcghie.name> Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410 > I think I have not included in my initial posting that I am talking > Mac, not PC. My apologies. Frankly, I was not aware that this software > is made for PC as well. Sorry. You shouldn't have to clarify this, since "mac" is in the newsgroup name. SignatureBarry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA |
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