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Mac Forum / Programming / Mac Programming / September 2007How to create a window which is default minimized
Hi I need to create a window which is default minimized. Right now what I am doing is first creating window and then minimizing it by miniturize but as I am doing it for 7 to 8 windows it dosent look good first they are created and then automatically minimized. There should be some bettter way to create it in default minimized form. Please help > I need to create a window which is default minimized. Right now > what I am doing is first creating window and then minimizing it by > miniturize but as I am doing it for 7 to 8 windows it dosent look good > first they are created and then automatically minimized. Grr. 1. Learn to cross post 2. See my other reply in apps 3. Don't post programming q's in apps.  Signature*--------------------------------------------------------* | ^Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool^ | | Heath Raftery, HRSoftWorks _\|/_ | *______________________________________m_('.')_m_________* In article <1190094727.038560.158180@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, > Hi > I need to create a window which is default minimized. Right now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Please help How about more info on your part. Are you using Cocoa or Carbon? Are you instantiating your Windows form NIB files. Either way have you tried creating your Windows invisible, setting the size and location then making the Window visible. Yes I am installing window from nib using cocoa. Actually in my application there is a situation where 7 to 8 windows are created but they should be minimized by default. What I am doing is first show window and then minituarizing it but for a second all 8 windows are shown then minimized so it looks bad. So what I did is OrderBack and then minituarize but when will is not in full size the minimizing effect can be seen. So I want to create window direclty in dock In article <1190280573.262312.302560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>, > Yes I am installing window from nib using cocoa. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So I want to create window direclty in dock I'm going to annoying and ask why? Why hide the a Window from the user and clutter up the Dock with Windows they didn't place there? What are you trying to hide from the user? Simple, its customer requirement. Actually each window represents a projetor. In my application user does not view projector frequently thats why its default minimized rather that ask user to minimize 8 windows on start up. Anyways problem is solved. First OrderOut then minituarize and then showwindow. I havent tried hidewindow but I think that should work too. thanks for your relpy. > Simple, its customer requirement. > Actually each window represents a projetor. > In my application user does not view projector frequently thats why > its default minimized rather that ask user to minimize 8 windows on > start up. It is part of a programmer's job to work out the requirements with a customer. This includes telling the customer (nicely) when he's being an idiot, and convincing him to modify his requirements to be less of an idiot. This is a terrible GUI. You should, if you haven't already, explain to the customer why it's a terrible GUI and what you think would be a better one. Of course sometimes they don't know what's good for them and that can't be helped, but it's your responsibility ot at least try. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software > This is a terrible GUI. You should, if you haven't already, explain to the > customer why it's a terrible GUI and what you think would be a better one. > Of course sometimes they don't know what's good for them and that can't be > helped, but it's your responsibility ot at least try. You're making the assumption the guy realizes and cares it's a terrible UI. ; ) SignaturePlease let me know if you send email to this address so that I can be sure your email doesn't get eaten by pobox.com's ultra-aggressive SPAM filter. JR >> This is a terrible GUI. You should, if you haven't already, explain to the >> customer why it's a terrible GUI and what you think would be a better one. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You're making the assumption the guy realizes and cares it's a terrible > UI. ; ) Quite the contrary, I assume he either doesn't realize or doesn't care and am trying to change that situation. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software >>> This is a terrible GUI. You should, if you haven't already, explain to the >>> customer why it's a terrible GUI and what you think would be a better one. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Quite the contrary, I assume he either doesn't realize or doesn't care and > am trying to change that situation. Good luck with that. ; ) SignaturePlease let me know if you send email to this address so that I can be sure your email doesn't get eaten by pobox.com's ultra-aggressive SPAM filter. JR >>>> This is a terrible GUI. You should, if you haven't already, explain to the >>>> customer why it's a terrible GUI and what you think would be a better one. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Good luck with that. ; ) Well you gotta have at least a little bit of that sort of attitude, otherwise why be here at all? SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software >> Simple, its customer requirement. >> Actually each window represents a projetor. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Of course sometimes they don't know what's good for them and that can't be > helped, but it's your responsibility ot at least try. As an example, perhaps a "dashboard" style GUI would suit - a little panel that shows a small preview of each of the project windows. That way they wont clog up the Dock and you have much greater control over their presentation and arrangement. Of course, there are plenty of other ideas too. Just about all of them would be better than the minimize idea. I know customers ask for some braindead stuff. Some programmers just can't bring themselves to adhere to those ideas. It's a pride thing I suppose, and a bit of a hubris about "diluting" the OS experience... Signature*--------------------------------------------------------* | ^Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool^ | | Heath Raftery, HRSoftWorks _\|/_ | *______________________________________m_('.')_m_________* Thanks for kind responses & suggestions. I know its terrible GUI to open 8 windows in dock. A picture is better than thousand words. So I made GUI with both ways, dashboard and dock. And to everyones delight customer agreed on dashboard. Thanks alot > Thanks for kind responses & suggestions. > I know its terrible GUI to open 8 windows in dock. > A picture is better than thousand words. > So I made GUI with both ways, dashboard and dock. > And to everyones delight customer agreed on dashboard. Wonderful, thanks for telling us how this turned out. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software |
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