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Mac Forum / Programming / Mac Programming / August 2005Xcode duplicate non-Cocoa .h file in Contents/Resource ?
Why does Xcode duplicate header non-Cocoa .h file in Contents/Resource ? > Why does Xcode duplicate header non-Cocoa .h file in Contents/Resource ? It's a bug. Upgrade to Xcode 2.1, or remove your headers from your target's Copy Resources (I think that's the one). And check every time you add new headers (if you don't upgrade), in case it adds those new ones. >> Why does Xcode duplicate header non-Cocoa .h file in Contents/Resource ? > > It's a bug. Upgrade to Xcode 2.1, or remove your headers from your > target's Copy Resources (I think that's the one). And check every time you > add new headers (if you don't upgrade), in case it adds those new ones. Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists...  SignatureI believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. Dogbert > Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. > Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists... htp://connect.apple.com It requires membership, but Online membership is free. >> Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. >> Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists... > > htp://connect.apple.com > > It requires membership, but Online membership is free. Oh yeah, haven't been there in *quite* a while. Why don't they put new XCode releases on Software update for those who have it installed...? SignatureI believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. Dogbert > > htp://connect.apple.com > > > > It requires membership, but Online membership is free. > > Oh yeah, haven't been there in *quite* a while. Why don't they put new > XCode releases on Software update for those who have it installed...? Because then you wouldn't have to sign up to ADC. :) > >> Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. > >> Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Oh yeah, haven't been there in *quite* a while. Why don't they put new > XCode releases on Software update for those who have it installed...? Because it's bloody huge and it would suck for everyone if everybody tried to download it the day it was released. SignatureGoal 2005: Convincing James Hetfield to cover the Strawberry Shortcake "Are You Berry Berry Happy?" song. >> >> Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. >> >> Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Because it's bloody huge and it would suck for everyone if everybody > tried to download it the day it was released. I don't buy that. Regular OS updates can weigh in at upwards of 30MB. While this is still a factor of 20 less than a full Xcode distribution, an update package could be smaller, and I would wager there's at least 100 times as many people downloading OS updates as downloading Xcode updates. They *did* put Xcode 1.1 on SU. Well, sort of. They actually distributed a mini-update that updated the Xcode and IB apps but nothing else. This result in a lot of confusion and a lot of semi-broken installations. I get the feeling that since that experience, they've been reluctant to try it again, even though there's nothing inherent about the SU process that caused it. > >> >> Hmpf. I finally installed Tiger, but XCode 2.0 does the same thing. > >> >> Where do I get 2.1? I didn't even know it exists... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > update package could be smaller, and I would wager there's at least 100 > times as many people downloading OS updates as downloading Xcode updates. Ah, but users en masse have less of an immediate desire to upgrade in my experience. Certainly the total number of downloads for an OS update will be much higher, but it doesn't happen all at once. Some people do it immediately. Some wait a week for the early adopters to have first crack at any new pain, and some wait even longer. I'd say it takes much longer than a week and a half to achieve "full" adoption (i.e. all users that will update, rather than those that can) of an OS update. Imagine the impact, even if the audience is only 1% of the size, of Apple's worldwide developer base pulling down 750M each in a 48-hour window. G SignatureGoal 2005: Convincing James Hetfield to cover the Strawberry Shortcake "Are You Berry Berry Happy?" song. > Ah, but users en masse have less of an immediate desire to upgrade in my > experience. Certainly the total number of downloads for an OS update [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the impact, even if the audience is only 1% of the size, of Apple's > worldwide developer base pulling down 750M each in a 48-hour window. Apple's Software Update already has mechanisms for distributing the bandwidth peak across multiple servers and over multiple days. As far as I know, the answer here is simply that the left hand is not talking to the right hand and that there isn't much pressure for them to do so, especially since the new tools already have to be posted on ADC one way or another, so also posting them in SU would simply add red tape and overhead. Ben SignatureIf this message helped you, consider buying an item from my wish list: <http://artins.org/ben/wishlist> I changed my name: <http://periodic-kingdom.org/People/NameChange.php> >> I don't buy that. Regular OS updates can weigh in at upwards of 30MB. >> While this is still a factor of 20 less than a full Xcode distribution, an [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the impact, even if the audience is only 1% of the size, of Apple's > worldwide developer base pulling down 750M each in a 48-hour window. My experience is generally the opposite. Normal users tend to have upgrade fever, whereas developers usually undestand the business enough to hold off for a while. In any case, 1% is probably an extreme over-estimate, as is 750MB, just as 48 hours is an under-estimate. I'd be surprised if the Xcode update traffic were any significant proportion of total SU traffic, even as a spike. > > Imagine > > the impact, even if the audience is only 1% of the size, of Apple's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > In any case, 1% is probably an extreme over-estimate, Just took it from your post. > as is 750MB, The size of the last Xcode download. > just as 48 hours is an under-estimate. My projection of the window during which developers would be trying to download an Xcode update if they became aware of it through SU based on the totally anecdotal observation I've made of developer behavior. But it's all speculation on both our parts as far as I know. Possibly amusing, but unlikely to actually be productive, yeah? G SignatureGoal 2005: Convincing James Hetfield to cover the Strawberry Shortcake "Are You Berry Berry Happy?" song. >> > Imagine >> > the impact, even if the audience is only 1% of the size, of Apple's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Just took it from your post. It was meant as an extreme over-estimate in that post as well. >> as is 750MB, > > The size of the last Xcode download. Compare the size of OS X (several GB) to the size of even a large combo updater (117MB for the 10.3.9 updater). Xcode updates will probably replace more stuff, but it will still be significantly smaller. >> just as 48 hours is an under-estimate. > > My projection of the window during which developers would be trying to > download an Xcode update if they became aware of it through SU based on > the totally anecdotal observation I've made of developer behavior. My observation is that developers have been burned by installing updates on their work machines and try to hold off until they hear back about how they work. But people are different. > But it's all speculation on both our parts as far as I know. Possibly > amusing, but unlikely to actually be productive, yeah? Indeed. I have no illusions about the actual *usefulness* of this sort of usenet discussion. :) > > htp://connect.apple.com > > > > It requires membership, but Online membership is free. > > Oh yeah, haven't been there in *quite* a while. Why don't they put new > XCode releases on Software update for those who have it installed...? XCode 2.1 contains kind of own software update that informs at least about new available documentation on the ADC member site. Regards, Tom_E SignatureThis address is valid in its unmodified form but expires soon. |
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