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jollyprez - 23 Jun 2005 00:45 GMT
Here's a weird one for you. I have a customer that wants to use
portrait orientation instead of landscape for a project. Don't ask.

Remembering the really old days of the Radius Swivel monitors...is it
possible to tell OSX to treat the monitor as tilted? I know I can
rotate everything 90 degrees, but that seems kinda skanky - not to
mention ineffiicient.

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Sean McBride - 23 Jun 2005 01:16 GMT
> Remembering the really old days of the Radius Swivel monitors...is it
> possible to tell OSX to treat the monitor as tilted? I know I can
> rotate everything 90 degrees, but that seems kinda skanky - not to
> mention ineffiicient.

I seem to remember reading that 10.4 has functionality for this, but
that its not in the GUI, or its hidden.  Googling "rotate screen tiger"
reveals info.  Seems you basically have to option-click 'displays' in
sys prefs.  Doesn't work for me though.
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Ben Artin - 23 Jun 2005 05:11 GMT
> > Remembering the really old days of the Radius Swivel monitors...is it
> > possible to tell OSX to treat the monitor as tilted? I know I can
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> reveals info.  Seems you basically have to option-click 'displays' in
> sys prefs.  Doesn't work for me though.

It's in 10.4 Displays prefs, not hidden at all.

Ben

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James W. Walker - 23 Jun 2005 07:12 GMT
> > I seem to remember reading that 10.4 has functionality for this, but
> > that its not in the GUI, or its hidden.  Googling "rotate screen tiger"
> > reveals info.  Seems you basically have to option-click 'displays' in
> > sys prefs.  Doesn't work for me though.
>
> It's in 10.4 Displays prefs, not hidden at all.

Not hidden?  It's not visible unless you hold down the option key as
you open the Displays panel.  I'd call that hidden.
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Michael Ash - 23 Jun 2005 09:24 GMT
>> > I seem to remember reading that 10.4 has functionality for this, but
>> > that its not in the GUI, or its hidden.  Googling "rotate screen tiger"
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> Not hidden?  It's not visible unless you hold down the option key as
> you open the Displays panel.  I'd call that hidden.

I think it may depend on what hardware you're using.

Also, the option trick stops working if you've already loaded the Displays
panel. Be sure to quit and restart System Preferences and hold down option
the first time you click Displays.
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Clark S. Cox III - 23 Jun 2005 12:45 GMT
>>> I seem to remember reading that 10.4 has functionality for this, but
>>> that its not in the GUI, or its hidden.  Googling "rotate screen tiger"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Not hidden?  It's not visible unless you hold down the option key as
> you open the Displays panel.  I'd call that hidden.

It depends on the hardware. On PowerBooks, for example, it is only
visible if you have an external monitor plugged in (i.e. rotating the
built in monitor would be a bit silly). But, on my G5 at work, it is
always visible (considering that the only monitors are external)

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Stephane Madrau - 23 Jun 2005 12:53 GMT
> It depends on the hardware. On PowerBooks, for example, it is only
> visible if you have an external monitor plugged in (i.e. rotating the
> built in monitor would be a bit silly). But, on my G5 at work, it is
> always visible (considering that the only monitors are external)

It's a driver feature, it is only present in some ATI drivers; and even
on these cards it is only proposed for external displays (ie. not
built-in, but you can force the option to be shown with the option key)

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jollyprez - 23 Jun 2005 18:47 GMT
I'm using a dual 1.8gz G5 with an Apple 20" monitor. I don't see
anything about orientation with or without option key.

I'm using 10.4.1

??

Jolly
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Clark S. Cox III - 23 Jun 2005 19:54 GMT
> I'm using a dual 1.8gz G5 with an Apple 20" monitor. I don't see
> anything about orientation with or without option key.
>
> I'm using 10.4.1

This is what I see when I open up the display control panel on a dual
2.0 GHz G5, with a 23" Apple display (the old, translucent one, not the
new metal one). I didn't have to press option or anything:

<http://homepage.mac.com/clarkcox3/graphics/Display_Control_Panel.png>

The graphics card is a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

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Jon Boone - 24 Jun 2005 13:50 GMT
> I'm using a dual 1.8gz G5 with an Apple 20" monitor. I don't see
> anything about orientation with or without option key.
>
> I'm using 10.4.1

 It depends on the video card you have.  What video card is installed
 in your dual 1.8 G5?

--jon
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Clark S. Cox III - 23 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
> Here's a weird one for you. I have a customer that wants to use
> portrait orientation instead of landscape for a project. Don't ask.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> rotate everything 90 degrees, but that seems kinda skanky - not to
> mention ineffiicient.

In Tiger, it's right there in the Displays panel of System Preferences,
I use a monitor in portrait orientation every day.

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Mark Haase - 23 Jun 2005 11:46 GMT
> In Tiger, it's right there in the Displays panel of System Preferences,
> I use a monitor in portrait orientation every day.

Next question: if I get one of those Dell monitors that can swivel, does
OS X have the drivers to change the orientation automatically?

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Clark S. Cox III - 23 Jun 2005 12:46 GMT
>> In Tiger, it's right there in the Displays panel of System Preferences,
>> I use a monitor in portrait orientation every day.
>
> Next question: if I get one of those Dell monitors that can swivel,
> does OS X have the drivers to change the orientation automatically?

I doubt it. The monitor I use swivels, it's an NEC, but I have to
update the orientation manually.

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John C. Randolph From: - 26 Aug 2005 09:31 GMT
>> Here's a weird one for you. I have a customer that wants to use
>> portrait orientation instead of landscape for a project. Don't ask.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> rotate everything 90 degrees, but that seems kinda skanky - not to
>> mention ineffiicient.

>In Tiger, it's right there in the Displays panel of System Preferences,
>I use a monitor in portrait orientation every day.

Only if the driver for the display card in question supports it.  Most of
them don't.

-jcr
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