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Help needed opening PC PowerPoint generated files with Mac

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Jim Mahon - 28 Mar 2008 02:40 GMT
I have had problems opening some PC PowerPoint files on my Mac with
Office 2004 for sometime. I have been getting the message that I
needed to contact the originator of the files and have them saved in
an earlier version of  PowerPoint.

The files that cause me grief are presentations I do on contract for
an safety training organization.

When I upgraded to Office 2008 I figured my problems would be gone.
But when I went to open them the same files that open fine on a PC
give me the message that, " This presentation is protected by a
password or digital Rights Management (DRM. To access the
presentation, you must have a version that is not protected by a
password or DRM.

What do I do now? Any suggestions?

jim Mahon
Mickey Stevens - 28 Mar 2008 15:59 GMT
I'm not aware of a way to deal with this problem aside from asking for an
unprotected copy of the file.

If you want to see DRM support in Office for Mac, be sure to send feedback.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/suggestions.mspx

On 3/27/08 8:40 PM, in article
739b17c9-8be7-443b-a570-1608d2c12846@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "Jim
Mahon" <jimahon@ody.ca> wrote:

> I have had problems opening some PC PowerPoint files on my Mac with
> Office 2004 for sometime. I have been getting the message that I
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> jim Mahon

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Jim Mahon - 28 Mar 2008 22:19 GMT
> I have had problems opening some PC PowerPoint files on my Mac with
> Office 2004 for sometime. I have been getting the message that I
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> jim Mahon
Jim Mahon - 29 Mar 2008 15:43 GMT
> > I have had problems opening some PC PowerPoint files on my Mac with
> > Office 2004 for sometime. I have been getting the message that I
> > needed to contact the originator of the files and have them saved in
> > an earlier version of  PowerPoint.
People here seem to be missing my point. The pps files I am referring
to run just fine on a windows machine. These files are password
protected in that you need a password to modify them on a windows
machine. No password is needed to run the pps file on windows.

My question is why won't these pps files run on a mac with Office
2008? I am not trying to modify them just to run the pps file. When I
attempt to run the pps file I get the message " This presentation is
protected by a password or digital Rights Management (DRM. To access
the presentation, you must have a version that is not protected by a
password or DRM."

Maybe I am being dense but my thoughts are if it runs on windows it
should run on the Mac. No? And if not why not?

If anyone can enlighten me I would appreciate it.

Jim Mahon

> > The files that cause me grief are presentations I do on contract for
> > an safety training organization.
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> > jim Mahon
Jim Gordon MVP - 29 Mar 2008 17:27 GMT
>>> I have had problems opening some PC PowerPoint files on my Mac with
>>> Office 2004 for sometime. I have been getting the message that I
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>>> What do I do now? Any suggestions?
>>> jim Mahon

Hi Jim,

The problem is that there really isn't any difference between a
PowerPoint file with a .ppt extension and a PowerPoint file with a .pps
extension except for the letters t and s at the end of the file name.

If you double-click a file with a .pps extension PowerPoint opens and
then immediately begins to play the presentation. But you can always
start PowerPoint first and use File > Open with a .pps file and then it
will open in PowerPoint's normal editing view. The password information
is saved in the .pps format.

Windows versions of PowerPoint have the option to password protect a
presentation from editing when the file opens to editing, but that
functionality was never put into the Macintosh version of PowerPoint.

When Mac PowerPoint tries to open any presentation, whether it's .ppt or
.pps if it sees a password protected document then it displays the
messages you were seeing. Mac PowerPoint does not have logic built in
that says "if it is a .pps ignore the password and present anyway"
because Mac PowerPoint will always let you edit either a ppt or pps file.

Yes, this behavior makes some Windows PowerPoint presentations file
incompatible with Mac PowerPoint. Yes, Microsoft knows about this. Yes,
this has been on the MVP wishlist forever. Yes, the MVPs will mention
this problem once again. Along with lots of other problems. Whether or
not this one will make the cut to be fixed in the next version of
PowerPoint, who knows?

Meanwhile, Matt and I are trying to give you various ways to try to deal
with the fact that password protected PowerPoint files won't play on
Macs. Matt says to go to the source of the presentation and ask that the
password protection be removed. Obviously that would work, but the idea
of password protection is, well, protection. So the author has to be
willing to trust you with his work and remove his protection, and you
have to take the initiative and the author has to do a little work.

My suggestion was to use a third party software that might work if you
know the password, but then again, you still have to ask the author to
surrender his protected content to you.

What's really needed here is a completely different file format that
plays PowerPoint presentations everywhere. Adobe has Flash, and lots of
people have advocated for PowerPoint support of Flash, but when I
investigated this I found Adobe really doesn't seem to want people using
Flash format unless they spend lots of $$$$ on their Flash software.
Playing is free. Creating is most definitely not in the Adobe Flash world.

On the Mac side, we have File > Save As Movie. There's no equivalent
feature on the Windows side.

There's a cross-platform solution that's really very good (but not free)
called Impatica. For details visit:
http://www.impatica.com/imp4ppt/

There's a new Microsoft technology called Silverlight, which is far
superior to Flash, and it's totally free. There's actually a Silverlight
installer on the Office 2008 install disc (not many people are aware of
it's existence). IMHO Microsoft should use this new technology as a
player for full fidelity PowerPoint presentations. But I'm going to have
a heck of a job convincing the Microsoft folks that this is a good idea
for both Mac and Windows PowerPoint. Find out more about Silverlight at:
http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

I wish I could come up with a better solution for you, but right now
about all I can do is explain the situation and offer suggestions about
how to deal with the situation.

-Jim

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