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Picture from Mac not Displaying in  PowerPoint on a PC

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tshad - 04 Dec 2007 07:48 GMT
I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:

QuickTime and a
TIFF(LZW) decompressor
are needed to see this picture.

What is this and how do I fix this?

I normally don't have a problem with pictures from my Mac to my PC.  but I
do in a few cases where I get this.

The PowerPoint works fine on the Mac.

Thanks,

Tom.
TAJ Simmons - 04 Dec 2007 09:56 GMT
Tom,

see
QuickTime and a TIFF (or JPEG) decompressor are needed to see this picture
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00534.htm

cheers
TAJ Simmons

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>I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint
>presentation that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Tom.
Ed - 07 Dec 2007 12:52 GMT
> I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
> that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Tom.

I've had this problem as well. Sometimes I found that "standard"
formats like gif and jpeg sometimes fail to translate from the Mac to
PowerPoint/Windows. The solution I found is to safe all my graphic
files as png files. This files will appear in PowerPoint/Windows. But
-- and this is a BIG BUT -- png files look fuzzy. PowerPoint was
originally a Macintosh only program. You'd think that Microsoft would
have found a way to fix this glitch in the last 20 years.

Ed
riverpainter@gmail.com - 07 Dec 2007 17:37 GMT
snip
> > QuickTime and a
> > TIFF(LZW) decompressor
> > are needed to see this picture.

Open the pictures in Photoshop ---  [ or Graphic Converter : see that
*fabulous shareware at http://Lempkesoft.com ; been using it since
'96 ].

File> save as> Tiff > Discard layers and save a copy; use no
compression;  PC bit order > Save in your ppt folder ;  reinsert.
Better yet, insert pics in PPT on PC.

(or png as Ed said above)
Jim Gordon MVP - 08 Dec 2007 02:36 GMT
Hi,

Windows PowerPoint's support for QuickTime is lame.

To avoid this problem, instead of pasting pictures into the presentation use
Insert > Picture > From File (which presumes you saved the picture as a file
first).

When you paste a picture into an office application on the Mac the file
format requires the QuickTime decompressor on Windows, and Windows
PowerPoint is oblivious to QuickTime even it is installed properly on the
Windows computer.

-Jim

Quoting from "Ed" <edvolchok@nyc.rr.com>, in article
3a96dc6a-ebb6-4b22-986c-7e789ef377b2@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:

>> I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
>> that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Ed

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Steve Rindsberg - 08 Dec 2007 18:53 GMT
> Windows PowerPoint's support for QuickTime is lame.

Point of order (doesn't affect the advice you've given, mind you):

I suspect it's more a case of Windows not using any system-level image
compression the way Mac does.  I doubt whether ANY Windows app can deal with
QT-compressed images.

> To avoid this problem, instead of pasting pictures into the presentation use
> Insert > Picture > From File (which presumes you saved the picture as a file
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> PowerPoint is oblivious to QuickTime even it is installed properly on the
> Windows computer.

I think that the Windows QT software is only a media-player (movies, sounds) but
does nothing with images.  And as Windows has no notion of a system-level service
for compressing/decompressing images the way CODECs do for sound/video, there'd
be no Windows-level app support for it if QT *did* support image compression on
the PC.  

Which, come to think of it, is a very good reason for Apple not to have bothered
implementing it.  Why spend the money to develop a fuel-injected race engine when
you're headed for a bicycle race?  ;-)
Jim Gordon MVP - 08 Dec 2007 19:12 GMT
Quoting from "Steve Rindsberg" <abuse@localhost.com>, in article
VA.00003bc5.99a1590c@localhost.com, on [DATE:

>> Windows PowerPoint's support for QuickTime is lame.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> compression the way Mac does.  I doubt whether ANY Windows app can deal with
> QT-compressed images.

I've always been under the impression one of the supposed advantages of
Windows is the vastly larger range of applications and capabilities of
Windows apps when compared with Mac apps. It's not like this Windows
QuickTime deficiency is a new  or insignificant.

>> To avoid this problem, instead of pasting pictures into the presentation use
>> Insert > Picture > From File (which presumes you saved the picture as a file
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> when
> you're headed for a bicycle race?  ;-)

You make it sound like building something in Windows that actually would
work right is impossible. Is Windows really that bad?

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Steve Rindsberg - 09 Dec 2007 03:16 GMT
> Quoting from "Steve Rindsberg" <abuse@localhost.com>, in article
> VA.00003bc5.99a1590c@localhost.com, on [DATE:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Windows apps when compared with Mac apps. It's not like this Windows
> QuickTime deficiency is a new  or insignificant.

Seen from a Windows perspective, it's not such a a big deal, though.
Windows users don't make QT files so have relatively little need of consuming
them.  More or less off the radar, ya see.

> > I think that the Windows QT software is only a media-player (movies, sounds)
> > but
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> You make it sound like building something in Windows that actually would
> work right is impossible. Is Windows really that bad?

Now now.  Lookit what happens in the news every time they get started in with
r-wars.   Not going to go there, nuh-uh.  ;-)

"Different" <> "Better" <> "Worse"

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
================================================
Jim Gordon MVP - 09 Dec 2007 16:32 GMT
But they do!

QuickTime Pro is a popular PC app, and certainly iTunes is. Any Windows
users hear of or use MPEG-4?  That's Apple's QuickTime!

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/mpeg4/

-Jim

Quoting from "Steve Rindsberg" <abuse@localhost.com>, in article
VA.00003bce.9b6e0be4@localhost.com, on [DATE:

> Seen from a Windows perspective, it's not such a a big deal, though.
> Windows users don't make QT files so have relatively little need of consuming
> them.  More or less off the radar, ya see.

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Steve Rindsberg - 10 Dec 2007 20:57 GMT
> QuickTime Pro is a popular PC app, and certainly iTunes is. Any Windows
> users hear of or use MPEG-4?  That's Apple's QuickTime!

Quicktime is very tightly locked up by Apple.  Ask a developer who's tried to
acquire a license to do much of anything with Quicktime under Windows.  Sure
iTunes is popular ... it's the only way to use an iPod with a PC.  And it's worth
it for that, the iPod being a superb piece of hardware.

But I also had a music player that didn't need anything at all .. plug it in,
drag files to it ... for all the PC (or Mac) cared, it was a USB drive.

What to do, what to do?  Ah.  Hook the iPod to the Mac, give the other player
away, leave iTunes off the PC.  Works for me. <g>

> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/mpeg4/
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > Windows users don't make QT files so have relatively little need of consuming
> > them.  More or less off the radar, ya see.

================================================
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
================================================
Cooper - 25 Jan 2008 03:22 GMT
I have tried all this even running a marco, I have no photoshop software and can't get any, and re-inserting the pics is out of the question.
- 25 Jan 2008 16:55 GMT
I don't know why but when this happens to me, I go back to my mac, cut the image and then paste special as "picture". This works for me 95% of the time.
- 07 Feb 2008 21:30 GMT
Issue only seems to occur when dragging and dropping images from Safari or copying and pasting out of Preview so ensure that the images are being saved first and then inserted into PowerPoint. Although it is convenient, dragging and dropping is probably not the best way to get the images in the presentation, stick to Insert> Picture> From File.
Rob - 28 Feb 2008 14:45 GMT
> Issue only seems to occur when dragging and dropping images from Safari or copying and pasting out of Preview so ensure that the images are being saved first and then inserted into PowerPoint. Although it is convenient, dragging and dropping is probably not the best way to get the images in the presentation, stick to Insert> Picture> From File.

On a related issue, I have a perplexing (to me) problem. I have put
together a ppt presentation on a mac PB using ppt.v.X. I burned it to
a cd using Toast v.7., making a hybrid, mac/windows compatible. Here's
what I don't understand: It plays fine on the Mac. It also plays fine
on an old Dell loaded with ppt. v.97. But when I try to play the cd on
the Windows XP (Boot Camp) side of my new 24" iMac several of the
graphics don't show. On the XP side I only have ppt. viewer, not the
full ppt program. Is the ppt viewer the problem?
Steve Rindsberg - 28 Feb 2008 15:57 GMT
> On a related issue, I have a perplexing (to me) problem. I have put
> together a ppt presentation on a mac PB using ppt.v.X. I burned it to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> graphics don't show. On the XP side I only have ppt. viewer, not the
> full ppt program. Is the ppt viewer the problem?

Try reducing Graphics Hardware Acceleration in XP:

How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm
Rob - 29 Feb 2008 13:40 GMT
> > On a related issue, I have a perplexing (to me) problem. I have put
> > together a ppt presentation on a mac PB using ppt.v.X. I burned it to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> How to set graphics hardware acceleration backhttp://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Thanks for the suggestion Steve. But reducing graphics acceleration
didn't help. Strange thing is that I have several ppt presentations,
which I have used for years. Only one acts strangely on my XP system.
Perhaps I'll try to reinsert the graphics. I'm not certain, but it's
possible that I dragged them into the ppt window when I should have
"inserted" them.
Rob
Steve Rindsberg - 29 Feb 2008 21:52 GMT
> > > On a related issue, I have a perplexing (to me) problem. I have put
> > > together a ppt presentation on a mac PB using ppt.v.X. I burned it to
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> possible that I dragged them into the ppt window when I should have
> "inserted" them.

Another thing you can try from the Windows side is "round-tripping"
This can help to remove corrupted objects that might be causing odd problems.

HTML "Round-tripping" to repair corruption
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Our free StarterSet addin for PPT automates this for you:

http://www.pptools.com/starterset/

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
================================================
Rob - 03 Mar 2008 13:07 GMT
> In article <f68f78bb-dac3-41a1-b26f-1f144b009...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Rob
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> PPTools:  www.pptools.com
> ================================================

Steve, reinserting the missing graphics solved the problem. What I
don't understand is that the presentation worked under previous
versions of Windows, but not in XP on my iMac.
Steve Rindsberg - 03 Mar 2008 15:46 GMT
> > In article <f68f78bb-dac3-41a1-b26f-1f144b009...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Rob
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> don't understand is that the presentation worked under previous
> versions of Windows, but not in XP on my iMac.

Hard to say why, but in some cases, especially when presentations are edited a lot, PPT
could lose its "pointers" to image data, particularly in older versions; it's not
totally fixed (or rather, I suspect MS hasn't tracked down and fixed all the various
causes), but newer versions than 97 are less fragile in this regard.

Still ... why in XP but not in other Windows versions?  Very odd.
================================================
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
================================================
paulcwr@officeformac.com - 07 Mar 2008 11:01 GMT
get that same problem when pasting an excel chart into powerpoint (if i chose 'paste as picture'. this is really unacceptable since the whole point of buying office is to be able to use content from one programme into the other. the workarounds offered here work but i can't see myself doing this everyime. what is strange is that it used to work a couple weeks ago and still works with office 2004 for mac. i started having this problem when upgrading to office 2008. does anyone have that problem? can anyone paste graphs from excel 08 to powerpoint 08?
J Peter Donnelly - 11 Mar 2008 00:05 GMT
Had this problem since the switch to MAC Office 2004 with all versions of Office including 2007. My work around is to save the offending slide as a JPEG and then insert it over the original. However it loses quality and is a monumental pain to boot. The problem is particularly acute when I GRAB an image from a PDF (I am a scientist and regularly show figures from the original articles) . Windows is totally blind to this whether I paste it directly or save it to disk and INSERT it from FILE within Powerpoint. I view this as a an obstacle left by Microsoft to irritate us - nothing more and nothing less. Seems I from the discussion I will just have to keep on doing this until I consign OFFICE to the dustbin as soon as Keynote runs on a Windows PC :eyeroll:
bdaul@officeformac.com - 23 Mar 2008 09:30 GMT
Every company has it's unique problems...Apple in the world of computing is a cosmetics company. Isn't a leader in new computing technology...just stuff that looks nice...on the other hand Microsoft produces a lot of crapware...sometimes you can even smell it. When you think the world revolves around you there is a tendency to treat your customer like crap.
CyberTaz - 23 Mar 2008 17:40 GMT
<snip>
On 3/23/08 4:30 AM, in article ee85563.20@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> Isn't a leader in new computing technology...
<snip>

Are you kidding??? Where do you find any support for such a statement?

Most of the technological improvements you see on PCs was developed &
standardized on the Mac first - and many of them still aren't there or have
to be 'added on'. PCs didn't even know what a mouse, hi-res graphics or GUI
were until several years after the Mac introduced them. Not to even try
listing everything, but just a very few other items of more recent vintage:

Support for 8 GB RAM
PCI
PCMCIA
USB
Firewire
SATA
eSATA
Bluetooth
...and, oh, what about the Macbook Air?

Just 'cause it's pretty doesn't mean there isn't a beast within - do you
also believe there's no such thing as a beautiful blonde with brains?:-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
kraves@officeformac.com - 10 Apr 2008 11:00 GMT
> I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
> that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What is this and how do I fix this?

This is a classic problem, reading the replies here (except those that decided to drift off topic) many came up with solutions.

I work conferences where I can see dozens of presentations come through each day. Thus I'm always keen to have a quick solution so I can move onto the next presenter.

Yes you can ...

1. Export the offending slides as jpg (loses any animations of course). Important to set the output resolution to 1024x768 or better. Bit annoying and time consuming.

2. Save as picture, export, photoshop and all variations mentioned here. Then reinsert - size - animate as per original.

3. Easiest and quickest.
Use the photo edit tools in Mac Powerpoint. Click on the scratch tool then draw a small line on a solid part of the image (usually a white area is good). powerpoint converts the image to a 'normal' picture format when it fixes the scratch.

Using the third technique I can very quickly get a presentation going again. It helps to have a PC and mac side-by-side to quickly find the ofending pictures. Does sometimes adjust brightness/contrast a little, or if you pick an area with a mark in it and can mess things up. Just undo and pick a new spot. You only need to draw a short line.

This is the quickest way I know, particularly when you have a presenter over your shoulder. The conferences I work are always PC based (just too expensive to provide mac and pc in each room along with additional av switch gear) so we regularly convert mac to pc with little worries at all these days.

kraves.
c fryer - 13 Apr 2008 22:14 GMT
> &gt; I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
> &gt; that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> &gt;
> &gt; What is this and how do I fix this?

I recently have had problems with some pictures (not all) in my Powerpoint not showing up when run on a PC. I always Insert Pictures from a file, so that is not the issue.
My question is - when inserting a picture, there is a choice to 1) link or 2) save with the document. Both options can be checked. What are the differences between the choices and does that impact whether the picture is seen on a PC? Thanks, :eyeroll:
Steve Rindsberg - 24 Apr 2008 20:32 GMT
> I recently have had problems with some pictures (not all) in my Powerpoint not showing up when run on a PC. I always Insert Pictures from a file, so that
is not the issue.
> My question is - when inserting a picture, there is a choice to 1) link or 2) save with the document. Both options can be checked. What are the differences
between the choices and does that impact whether the picture is seen on a PC?
Thanks, :eyeroll:

If you link, all that PPT keeps in the presentation is a "pointer" to the file
on your hard drive.  When the user opens the presentation, the link tells PPT
"Go here, get the picture from this file, display it."

If you send the file to somebody else, PPT will have a hard time with the "Go
here" part when it points back to your computer. ;-)

As a general rule, unless you have a very good reason for linking and
understand the pitfalls, you'll want to choose embed.

================================================
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
================================================
cwilliams1@officeformac.com - 26 May 2008 16:22 GMT
> I am getting a message from a couple of slided in my PowerPoint presentation
> that I created on my Mac and am trying to run on a PC that say:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Tom.
-----------------------
Tom,
First of all, there may be something on the PC you're using that it does not have. You may need to contact Microsoft about this, but, you may also want to check how you're saving your PowerPoint. If you're saving it as a 98-2003, it may not be able load the pictures. But, if you're saving it as a 2007-2008, it's something that the PC needs to load the pictures.
Bone - 16 Apr 2008 05:39 GMT
Kraves - My daughter has a powerpoint project she needs to redo because of the photo problem. I tried to figure out the "scratch" technique, but wasn't able to find the photo edit tools you spoke of. Can you give me a few more details? Thanks!
kraves@officeformac.com - 17 Apr 2008 11:20 GMT
Bone:
Sure, the "remove scratch" button is on the Picture toolbar.
View Menu -> Toolbars -> Picture

If you make the scratch line too short with your mouse it won't do anything.
A little progress bar appears saying removing scratch when you've got it right.

Kyle.
Paul_Acevedo@officeformac.com - 21 Apr 2008 21:37 GMT
I run into this all the time.

What I do is select and cut the offending image (on the Mac), and choose paste special and put it back into the doc as a PDF (picutre might also work - I have not tried it yet.).

Now that I've figured this out, when I am creating new docs and if I am copying and pasting images from other docs (or screen captures), my workflow is as follows: Copy > Paste> Cut> Paste Special. That seems to do the trick for me.

Cheers.
 
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