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Mac Forum / Applications / PowerPoint / December 2006Beefed up Excel sheet looks different in Windows
Hi! A person here where I work use Office 2004 for Mac to creat a PPT presentation. Some of the slides consist of an Excel sheet that she then increased in size by dragging in one corner in PowerPoint. It looks just fine in PPT for the Mac, but when opening in in PPT for Windows all fonts in the cells are WAY too big and overlap other cells. The funny thing is that if one double-click the Excel sheet in PPT for Windows (at least in version 2002) to edit it, and then click on another slide, it almost gets fixed, except that the text in some cells still go "to far" and into another cell. Why is this? Any Ideas? Best regards, -a Martin B Hi, By any chance is the zoom control in the Excel workbook set to something higher than 100%? Try adjusting the zoom control and see what happens. -Jim Gordon Mac MVP Quoting from "Bergström, Martin" <martin.bergstrom@oriflame.se>, in article C19DD3A0.7CF2%martin.bergstrom@oriflame.se, on [DATE: > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Best regards, > -a Martin B  SignatureJim Gordon Mac MVP MVPs are not Microsoft Employees MVP info http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Thanks for your reply, but nope, it's not the zoom. Here is the same Excel-file opened on the Mac (where it looks correct) and the same file opened in Ecxel 2002 on Windows XP. http://home.mac.se/star-affinity/excel_mac.jpg http://home.mac.se/star-affinity/excel_windows.JPG Things look quite different in Windows. The font used is Gill Alt One MT. Hmm...Maybe I should post this in the Excel section... Has it got to do with the Mac showing things in 72 dpi and Windows 92 dpi? Why does the ###### come up in Excel for Windows? If I double click them it "goes away" and change to show the correct "100.00%" Wick wack indeed... :| On 8/12/06 01:27, in article C19E1B90.13F90%goldkey74@WarmerThanWarmMail.com, "Jim Gordon MVP" <goldkey74@WarmerThanWarmMail.com> wrote: > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> Best regards, >> -a Martin B I believe you've hit on _part_ of the problem being the difference in ppi but that is compounded by : A) Different fonts on the Mac & the PC - even though the *names* may be the same the metrics differ, and B) Having stretched the object in the Mac file the proportionality and metrics have been thrown off & the PC is doing the best it can to mimic it - but falling short. Cross-platform *file* compatibility is one thing, but that doesn't mean that everything you can do *in* the file will render the same on both :-) HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > B) Having stretched the object in the Mac file the proportionality and > metrics have been thrown off & the PC is doing the best it can to mimic it - > but falling short. FWIW, the PC can screw up this part on its own. No need for any Mac assist. Text in embedded OLE objects behaves oddly when you change the size of the container object. It seems to jump from one pre-defined point size to another rather than scaling smoothly. Result: as you gradually scale the object up, the text will stay the same (too small) size while everything else grows. Then suddenly the text jumps to the next "approved" size (usually a bit too large) but as you continue scaling up the object, it gets to a point where the object and text size match. Then it goes out of whack again as you continue scaling. And so on. Linked OLE objects on the PC don't do this, they scale evenly, but as near as I can tell, you can't create these on the Mac. Bummer. ================================================ Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ :) I see what you mean, It's just that the user don't really understand those things. They just find it frustrating that it doesn't work the same. On 12/8/06 12:03 PM, in article C19EB0C5.1AD6D%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net, > I believe you've hit on _part_ of the problem being the difference in ppi > but that is compounded by : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Bob Jones > [MVP] Office:Mac > Thanks for your reply, but nope, it's not the zoom. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Things look quite different in Windows. > The font used is Gill Alt One MT. Is the same font present on the PC? If not, some other font will be substituted, which would almost certainly cause problems. > Why does the ###### come up in Excel for Windows? If I double click them it > "goes away" and change to show the correct "100.00%" Excel displays #### when a cell isn't wide enough to display its contents. > Wick wack indeed... :| > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >> Best regards, > >> -a Martin B ================================================ Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ > Is the same font present on the PC? If not, some other font will be > substituted, > which would almost certainly cause problems. >>> Yes, the font is the same > Excel displays #### when a cell isn't wide enough to display its contents. >>> OK. Thanks for this info! On 12/8/06 6:26 PM, in article VA.00002e5d.19f5e7af@localhost.com, "Steve Rindsberg" <abuse@localhost.com> wrote: >> Thanks for your reply, but nope, it's not the zoom. >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ > > Is the same font present on the PC? If not, some other font will be > > substituted, > > which would almost certainly cause problems. > >>> Yes, the font is the same Let's doublecheck that. "Same" to organic lifeforms and "Same" to computers isn't always the ... um ... well ... same. ;-) Open the file on the PC and from the main menu choose Format, Replace Fonts. In the upper of the two list boxes, scan down the list of fonts. They should all have TT or printer icons. If any has a ? or some other icon, that's a problem. > > Excel displays #### when a cell isn't wide enough to display its contents. > >>> OK. Thanks for this info! [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > ================================================ ================================================ Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ |
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