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Powerbook G4/1,67 with 4G RAM?

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Massimo Burcheri - 19 Jul 2007 09:01 GMT
Hello.

My first post was on comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc. This is a supersede to the
more suitable comp.sys.mac.portables.

About the last generation Powerbook G4/1,67MHz 15-inch with 1440 high
resolution [1]: Has anyone ever tried to install 2 x 2048M = 4096M memory
modules? Recently there are modules with the correct PC2-4200 533MHz DDR2
specifications of 2048 Mega Byte which haven't been available at that time.

The developer notes [2] clearly declare 2048M as the maximum configuration
level. Does this concern Apple's own operating system? Is this a
restriction of the hardware? Or does the restriction apply to the
Openfirmware?
The target operating system will be Linux.

Soon after this last version Apple discontinued the legendary Powerbook
series and published the Intel Macbooks. They had the same memory modules
like the last Powerbooks but with 4096M maximum configuration.

Regards,
Massimo

[1]
http://support.apple.com/specs/powerbook/PowerBook_G4_15-inch_Double-Layer_SD.html

[2]
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs
-G4/15inchPowerBookG4/15inchPowerBookG4.pdf

Florian Zschocke - 19 Jul 2007 10:12 GMT
Massimo Burcheri <massimo.burcheri@gmx.de> schrieb:
<(null)>

> The developer notes [2] clearly declare 2048M as the maximum configuration
> level. Does this concern Apple's own operating system? Is this a
> restriction of the hardware? Or does the restriction apply to the
> Openfirmware?
> The target operating system will be Linux.

I have never seen a G4 with more than 2GB. I guess it is a limitation of the
chipset.

Florian
Frank Graves - 25 Jul 2007 04:51 GMT
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<C2BEB6FC-BDC9-44F8-B82B-B6AEF6E6C371%edv@zschocke-berlin.de>, Florian
Zschocke <edv@zschocke-berlin.de> wrote:

> Massimo Burcheri <massimo.burcheri@gmx.de> schrieb:
>  <(null)>
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>
> Florian  

Just because Apple does not support it does not necessarily mean it
can't be done. One example is the recent MacBook which Apple says has a
2 GIG limit. It has been well documented and actually proven that the
MacBook will take 3 GIGS of memory.
Massimo Burcheri - 25 Jul 2007 07:02 GMT
> Just because Apple does not support it does not necessarily mean it
> can't be done. One example is the recent MacBook which Apple says has a
> 2 GIG limit. It has been well documented and actually proven that the
> MacBook will take 3 GIGS of memory.

Exactly. Generally the 32bit architectures have a 4096M addressable memory
limitation using the linear "flat memory model". As for x86 there is still
an area needed for PCI mapping so maybe 3G or 3.5G can be available.
I don't know how the PCI mapping is handled on PPC.
Then there has been introduced the PAE expansion in order to address up to
64G physical memory on 32bit systems using additional address bits. The
conversion into 36bit adresses however costs performance.

Anyway, the modules are ordered, I'm going to try. Eventually 3G or more
could be available.

Regards,
Massimo
Florian Zschocke - 25 Jul 2007 10:13 GMT
Massimo Burcheri <massimo.burcheri@gmx.de> schrieb:


> Anyway, the modules are ordered, I'm going to try. Eventually 3G or more
> could be available.

I guess you will waste you money. See:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs
-G4/PowerMacG4/4Expansion/chapter_5_section_2.html#/apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000306
-TPXREF107


Florian
Massimo Burcheri - 25 Jul 2007 19:33 GMT
> I guess you will waste you money. See:

Of course I asked if I can return the 2G modules if they don't fit.:)
Massimo Burcheri - 23 Jul 2007 13:39 GMT
> About the last generation Powerbook G4/1,67MHz 15-inch with 1440 high
> resolution [1]: Has anyone ever tried to install 2 x 2048M = 4096M memory
> modules?

In other words, does the G4 support PAE?

Massimo
Steve Hix - 23 Jul 2007 21:17 GMT
> > About the last generation Powerbook G4/1,67MHz 15-inch with 1440 high
> > resolution [1]: Has anyone ever tried to install 2 x 2048M = 4096M memory
> > modules?
>
> In other words, does the G4 support PAE?

http://support.apple.com/specs/powerbook/PowerBook_G4_15-inch_Double-Laye
r_SD.html

http://support.apple.com/specs/powerbook/PowerBook_G4_15-inch_1_67-1_5GHz
.html
Massimo Burcheri - 24 Jul 2007 07:09 GMT
> http://support.apple.com/specs/powerbook/PowerBook_G4_15-inch_Double-Laye
> r_SD.html

Are you sure that will answer my question? Haven't I posted the same link?
Steve Hix - 24 Jul 2007 21:53 GMT
> > http://support.apple.com/specs/powerbook/PowerBook_G4_15-inch_Double-Laye
> > r_SD.html
>
> Are you sure that will answer my question?

Either that one, or the one that followed it (not being completely clear
as to which late-version PowerBook you have).

Apple doesn't support 4GB RAM on either model, according to the linked
pages.

> Haven't I posted the same link?

No idea; didn't see your earlier post.
 
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