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Powerbook G4 Ti hard drive replacement

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Norm - 05 Feb 2007 06:21 GMT
Think my hard drive is done. :-(

Is there a "best" drive manufacturer and is there a preferred size for
this model (PB Ti G4 1GHz)? On one site, some of the drives are called
"super slim" so didn't know if there was more than one size that fit
this model.

Thanks for any info.

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John Johnson - 05 Feb 2007 06:44 GMT
> Think my hard drive is done. :-(
>
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>
> Thanks for any info.

Any 2.5" ATA drive from a reputable manufacturer should work fine.
barefeats.com, IIRC, has info on drive performance, and xlr8yourmac.com
has information for older machines as well.

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Tom Harrington - 05 Feb 2007 17:41 GMT
> > Think my hard drive is done. :-(
> >
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> barefeats.com, IIRC, has info on drive performance, and xlr8yourmac.com
> has information for older machines as well.

In the TiBook you'll need the drive to be 9.5mm tall.  Some 2.5" ATA
laptop drives may be 12.5mm and those will not fit.  The 9.5mm are
variously described as "super slim", "ultra slim", and possibly other
names.

I've had good results with Hitachi/IBM Travelstars.  I don't know if
they're the best, but I'd buy one of them again.

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Norm - 14 Feb 2007 21:51 GMT
> In the TiBook you'll need the drive to be 9.5mm tall.  Some 2.5" ATA
> laptop drives may be 12.5mm and those will not fit.  The 9.5mm are
> variously described as "super slim", "ultra slim", and possibly other
> names.
>
> I've had good results with Hitachi/IBM Travelstars.  I don't know if

Thanks again to you and others for tips. New drive installed. :-)  About
to transfer my backup clone to it.

But a question...does my new drive support SMART.

The drive: 60GB Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 ATA-6 drive.

When I run DU the Verify shows all OK.

However next to S.M.A.R.T. status is says: Not Supported.

Didn't know if I should proceed to transfer my clone to this new
internal drive or not because I was under the impression that all new
drives had SMART.

I've gone on many sites and so far have not found a definite answer as
to whether this drive has SMART or not. Called the reseller and their
did not show it as supporting SMART but he was not 100% sure.

Anyone know if this drive has SMART? And if it does and this is the
reading by DU, what would be possible problems?

Thanks.

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Tom Harrington - 14 Feb 2007 23:08 GMT
> > In the TiBook you'll need the drive to be 9.5mm tall.  Some 2.5" ATA
> > laptop drives may be 12.5mm and those will not fit.  The 9.5mm are
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> internal drive or not because I was under the impression that all new
> drives had SMART.

It's installed in the Mac, not in a Firewire enclosure?  If so I don't
know why it wouldn't report status.  I've got a 100GB 5K100 and it seems
to support SMART.  Hitachi's spec sheet on the 7K100 says that it
supports it as well.

The data sheet is at:
http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/916278D1A1CEB59B86257
04B006D1F54/$file/7K100_SATA_spv2.1.pdf

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Norm - 14 Feb 2007 23:16 GMT
> It's installed in the Mac, not in a Firewire enclosure?  If so I don't
> know why it wouldn't report status.  I've got a 100GB 5K100 and it seems
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> http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/916278D1A1CEB59B86257
> 04B006D1F54/$file/7K100_SATA_spv2.1.pdf

Thank you.

Yes, it is in my PB G4 Ti.

Since last post, I read in Apple Discussions that one user needed to
have loaded the drive with the OS before it would show Supported for
SMART. I think I'll proceed to copy my clone to that drive.

Thanks for the additional help and that link info.

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Matti Haveri - 15 Feb 2007 20:53 GMT
> Think my hard drive is done. :-(
>
> Is there a "best" drive manufacturer and is there a preferred size for
> this model (PB Ti G4 1GHz)? On one site, some of the drives are called
> "super slim" so didn't know if there was more than one size that fit
> this model.

I don't know if this is of any help, but I just had to replace the drive
of my PB:

The 3 year old Toshiba MK8025GAS 80GB in my PowerBook G4 15-inch FW800
broke last saturday. I was doing light www browsing when I got some
extra disk activity followed by the colored pizza of death.

I could not boot form another HD neither from a DVD, and the single user
boot stopped to I/O error related to the internal drive (I don't know
whether I could have bypassed it, anyone?)

Next morning, to my surprise, I could briefly boot from it and freshen
my 2 week old backup. Copying from the drive was progressively slower
and after a while I noticed that if I bumped and tilted the PB the copy
progressed for a while. Several bumps later I had copied a fresh backup
to an external FW drive. That backup seems valid, BTW.

Then I went to hunt for a new drive. For some strange reason I have had
a sweet spot towards IBM/Hitachi SCSI Ultrastars and ATA Deskstars (even
the 75GB Deskstar a.k.a. Deathstar is still doing fine for me after all
these years!).

But none of the local stores had Hitachi in stock and I couldn't wait
the few days the mail order would have taken. Besides the staff at one
store warned me that IBM is the worst brand HD they know...

They only had Western Digital and Samsung locally. Samsung products
(cell phone software support) have not been Mac-friendly so I have had
an aversion for that brand. But I knew even less about WD so I let the
store install a 120GB 5400 rpm Samsung HM120JC which they recommended.
None of the local stores had any 7200 rpm drives so I didn't need to
think about that.

If the PB had been any older, I would have installed it myself but I
have experience only from installing stuff to a desktop 8600 so I let
the store do the install to the laptop. Luckily I had the PDF service
manual for the PB so the PC-store could more easily do the install to
the Mac.

...so I chose the drive rather blindly but it has worked OK. It is as
quiet as the old Toshiba and disk access sounds are almost non-existent
(the Toshiba made somewhat disk access noise which was in a way a good
thing so the user knew something was happening!).

The ATA SMART Feature Set didn't seem to be listed for the Samsung, but
when booted from the drive its SMART status is listed as OK in the Disk
Utility. BTW, the old failed Toshiba's SMART status was also OK when it
was on its last leg!

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