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Mac Forum / General / Portable Macs / June 2006My Lombard good for another six years :)
You would not believe what I went through to save my six year old Lombard powerbook from the scrap heap. My main reason for upgrading the Lombard from OS-8.6 to OSX was to get away from the Internet Explorer browser, which Mac versions are no longer supported by Microsoft. Ripped out IE and installed Safari in its place. Took me two weeks, but the transformation of my Lombard is almost complete, with OS 10.2.8 having been ran successfully on it. Poor old thing complains bitterly if I try to run any OS newer than 10.2.8 Toughest chore was to figure out some way to create _good_ backups of my Jaguar partition. (OS 10.2.8) What I consider to be a good backup, most others consider to be overkill. I was lucky, because I had an old CD with the OS9-only version of ShrinkWrap, which creates a true bootable image backup of my Jaguar partition. The old powerbook can now do _almost_ everything that my newest Intel Mac Mini Duo can do. (exagerating a wee bit, of course) Monster screwup on my part, I accidentally deleted all my upgrades from OS-10.2.0 to OS-10.2.8 grrr Tried some more all night downloads for several nights, but they failed to completely download for various reasons. Next tried to buy the upgrade CDs from Apple, as they advertise on their website, but that failed also because of un-sympathetic Apple support people. ...also I read on Google that there were several problems with a lot of the Jaguar upgrades - - - so everything considered, I gave up and decided to stick with the older OS-10.2.0 Anyhow, I am happy, because I don't believe in junking any Mac prematurely. Looks like many productive years still left for my old Lombard powerbook. :) :) :) Mark- Just a thought, but given sufficient RAM OS X 10.3 will happily install on a Lombard, and will perform better than 10.2.8. With insufficient RAM neither version will be pleasant to use. Cheers, MK. > Just a thought, but given sufficient RAM OS X 10.3 will happily install > on a Lombard, and will perform better than 10.2.8. With insufficient > RAM neither version will be pleasant to use. > > Cheers, MK. Thanks everyone. I will try again to install Tiger, Panther, etc., starting with 10.4.6 and working my way downwards to whatever will work on my particular Lombard, with its 500MB of RAM. Guess I did something wrong on my first upgrade attempts. Supposedly, two slightly different versions of the same Lombard were manufactured, one version with aluminum wiring on the CPU circuitry, another with copper wiring. Do not know which version I have, but according to some reports on the web, one of the versions of the Lombard would tolerate upgrading better than the other version would. Wish me luck. ;-) Mark- >>Just a thought, but given sufficient RAM OS X 10.3 will happily install >>on a Lombard, and will perform better than 10.2.8. With insufficient [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Mark- Hi Mark Your analysis is 100% correct. I got 10.2 running on my Lombard (400 MHz) but it ran like a dog. Panther & Tiger wouldn't even install ! I did install them by putting the HD into an external caddy installing via the G4 tower and then putting back into the Lombard. Both ran for all of 10 minutes and then froze completely. To cut a long story short the only thing that worked was to swap the CPU card for one that was "guaranteed" for 10.3-4 So if yours wont load or run Panther then that is what you will have to do to get it running. Malcolm at www.pbfanatic.co.uk can sort that for you. Now running sweetly on 10.3.9 with 384 MB RAM. Will go to 512 asap. -- JohnB > >>Just a thought, but given sufficient RAM OS X 10.3 will happily install > >>on a Lombard, and will perform better than 10.2.8. With insufficient [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > -- > JohnB Mine runs great with 10.3.9 but a partition with OS 9..2 .2 which boots OR runs in classic mode means that I have a few more options to mess with. Panther installed directly (on top of OS 10.1) Ret > Mine runs great with 10.3.9 but a partition with OS 9..2 .2 which boots > OR runs in classic mode means that I have a few more options to mess > with. Panther installed directly (on top of OS 10.1) > > Ret You have one of the "untroubled" Lombards then :-) -- JohnB > Just a thought, but given sufficient RAM OS X 10.3 will happily install > on a Lombard, and will perform better than 10.2.8. With insufficient > RAM neither version will be pleasant to use. > > Cheers, MK. No joy here though, just tried to install Panther OS 10.3 and the usual thing happened. Part way into the install my screen went haywire with random patterns. Let it go for another ten minutes, but the haywire screen persisted, and the CD drive stopped. Back to installing Jaguar OS 10.2 right now. Will then try again for the fifth time to download the 100 MB combo update to get it to OS 10.2.8 I _know_ that will work.<g> I must have one of the Lombards that have the aluminum wiring, and can't be upgraded all that easily. - - - Darn. Oh well, whatever works. :) :) :) Mark- > Will then try again for the fifth time to download the 100 MB combo > update to get it to OS 10.2.8 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Mark- Hi Mark. yep sounds like you have a "troubled" Lombard. But it CAN be upgraded easily. I swapped mine out a couple of weeks ago and took no more than 5 minutes and i'm no expert. Instructions easily obtainable from the Interweb. The key is to find a good replacement board "guaranteed' to work with 10.3 & 10.4. Malcolm at www.pbfanatic.co.uk sorted me with one for about £45. Best money I ever spent on the Lombard. -- JohnB > Looks like many productive years still left for my old > Lombard powerbook. :) :) :) I've got an old Lombard still chugging away with 10.4.6 and 512 MB ram. Took its drive out and installed Tiger on it in a firewire enclosure, then stuck it back into the Lom. Screen is getting a bit dodgy but it works perfectly as a music server in the house. >I've got an old Lombard still chugging away with 10.4.6 and 512 MB ram. >Took its drive out and installed Tiger on it in a firewire enclosure, >then stuck it back into the Lom. Screen is getting a bit dodgy but it >works perfectly as a music server in the house. I have a Lombard, coupled with a BookEndz dock, that I'm using as a SCSI machine. I have an old Olympus negative scanner that has no OS X drivers, so that old Lombard and Photoshop 4 work great for negative scanning. Copy the scans onto a USB pocket drive, plug it in my OS X machine, and I'm happy!  SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy - 07 Jun 2006 16:16 GMT > > Looks like many productive years still left for my old > > Lombard powerbook. :) :) :) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > then stuck it back into the Lom. Screen is getting a bit dodgy but it > works perfectly as a music server in the house. Mine is only on 10.3.9. I considered trying to put Tiger on it, but I don't think it's worth it. It's slow enough on 10.3.9, though very usable for web browsing, email etc., and as a 'server' of sorts. SignatureDavid Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org |
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