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Got one... PowerMac 13.3"

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Bob - 26 May 2006 04:45 GMT
I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today.  I got the middle grade
one for $1,224 from Mac/PC Connection because there was no tax and free
shipping.  It has 2gHz, 60gb, DVD burner, etc.  I have to admit that I
was a little nervous after reading some of those negative reviews about
the PowerMac Pro's that screamed like jet engines winding up, and
heated up to where you could barbeque a hotdog over it while you surfed
the Web.  Well, I want to report that this beautiful little machine has
been running nice and cool, and as silent as a mouse.  I've been
working with it for the past few hours... installing things and setting
everything up.  Another concern I had was whether the built-in Isight
web cam would work with applications like Yahoo chat, or just with
Apple's Ichat.  I had called Apple and they told me it would only work
with their Ichat and nothing else.  However, lo and behold... the built
in Isight camera works with any application that calls for a webcam.
Also, I plugged in a logitech web cam to my USB port and it works fine,
too.  But to get the logitech camera to work... you have to go to Ichat
and disable the Isight, using the Video menu.  You can't run two
cameras at once.  I'm looking at the monitor now and it is leaps and
bounds above my last 12" powerbook 1gHz.  The display seems so much
wider and with amazing brightness and crispness to the colors and
fonts.  I've got solo piano music playing now from Itunes Radio.  The
speakers are also beautiful...  I am very happy with my purchase at
this point.  This weekend I will get the Boot Camp software to install
WindowsXP and get that going.  I'll put a note here for anyone who is
interested as to how that works out.  I can't wait to play with all the
software goodies that came loaded on.  Anyway, I would say to anyone
who is on the fence, to take a breath, and kick-a-buck for one of
these.  So far, it seems to be well worth it.  Thanks for listening...
Bob
Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 06:29 GMT
> Well, I want to report that this beautiful little machine has
> been running nice and cool, and as silent as a mouse.

Just don't feed it after midnight.

> So far, it seems to be well worth it.  Thanks for listening...

There ya go, then. :-)

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Florian Zschocke - 26 May 2006 08:47 GMT

> I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today.

No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac.

Florian
Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 16:59 GMT
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> No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac.

You're assuming he got current production.  The fact that it cost him
$699 seems to argue against that.

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Florian Zschocke - 26 May 2006 17:43 GMT

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> You're assuming he got current production.  The fact that it cost him
> $699 seems to argue against that.

Where do you read that ?
There is no PPC with 13,3''

Florian
Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 20:55 GMT
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> Where do you read that ?
> There is no PPC with 13,3''

Ah!  oops.

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Gregory Weston - 26 May 2006 20:25 GMT
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> You're assuming he got current production.  The fact that it cost him
> $699 seems to argue against that.

???

"I got the middle grade one for $1,224 from Mac/PC Connection ..."

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Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 04:36 GMT
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>  
> > I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today.
>
> No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac.
>
> Florian

MacBook is sufficient.
Florian Zschocke - 27 May 2006 19:30 GMT

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> MacBook is sufficient.

IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining.
Garner Miller - 27 May 2006 19:51 GMT
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Zschocke <edv@zschocke-berlin.de> wrote:

> > MacBook is sufficient.
> >
> IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining.

Not really, since "MacBook" is a specific product, "IntelMac" is more
broad, and "PCMac" doesn't tell me anything.
Barry Margolin - 28 May 2006 02:54 GMT
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> Not really, since "MacBook" is a specific product, "IntelMac" is more
> broad, and "PCMac" doesn't tell me anything.

I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is
MacIntel.

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Howard S Shubs - 28 May 2006 03:44 GMT
> I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is
> MacIntel.

Shouldn't be.  After "wintel", it should be "mactel".  Even Apple says
it that way.

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Florian Zschocke - 28 May 2006 10:44 GMT


>> I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is
>> MacIntel.
>
> Shouldn't be.  After "wintel", it should be "mactel".  Even Apple says
> it that way.

I think it was a PowerMac and now it should be a CoreMac.

Florian
Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 21:36 GMT
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> > In article
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> IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining.

Intel Mac, sure, PC Mac, not. For starters, you can't install and run
Windows on one without about the same amount of work as getting Windows
to run on a PPC Mac.
sean.boots@gmail.com - 27 May 2006 03:52 GMT
Awesome!
Glad you like it.  Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was
wondering if the Macbook had problems like the "Pro" apparently has.
This makes me happy!  :-)   I hope you enjoy your new computer.

This group is a lot friendlier than comp.sys.mac.advocacy ... yikes!
John Johnson - 27 May 2006 04:48 GMT
> Awesome!
> Glad you like it.  Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was
> wondering if the Macbook had problems like the "Pro" apparently has.
> This makes me happy!  :-)   I hope you enjoy your new computer.
>
> This group is a lot friendlier than comp.sys.mac.advocacy ... yikes!

erm, what exactly did you expect from an advocacy group?  ;-)

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Dick Sidbury - 27 May 2006 16:01 GMT
> > Awesome!
> > Glad you like it.  Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was
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>
> erm, what exactly did you expect from an advocacy group?  ;-)

intelligence?  I subscribed to this group for about a week but saw only
two posts:
1) I bought a dell for 12 dollars which is just as good as the mac that
costs 12 million dollars.  So macs suck.

2) Yeah, but all windows machines do is crash and have viruses and spam
anyhow they suck.

dick
-- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much
Howard S Shubs - 27 May 2006 16:30 GMT
> intelligence?

Apparently, that was expecting too much.  I've never been in that group,
so I can't be sure.

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John Johnson - 27 May 2006 20:30 GMT
> > > Awesome!
> > > Glad you like it.  Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was
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> dick
> -- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much

Eh. The advocacy groups (not just macs, for whatever) are where people
do one of two things, IME:

1) troll the advocates of xyz to start flame wars
2) make outrageous claims about how xyz is better than anything else in
the world and start flame wars.

You're really better off here. :D

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Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 21:34 GMT
> > > Awesome!
> > > Glad you like it.  Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> dick
> -- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much

Think of advocacy groups as flypaper for trolls, leaving other groups
more usable than they might otherwise be if the trolls weren't tied down.
Barry Margolin - 28 May 2006 02:53 GMT
> I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today.

"Powermac laptop"?  PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs
containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new
ones of these for years.  Mac laptops are called PowerBook (high-end PPC
laptops), iBook (low-end PPC laptops), MacBook Pro (high-end Intel
laptops), and MacBook (low-end PPC laptops).

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TaliesinSoft - 28 May 2006 05:18 GMT
> "Powermac laptop"?  PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs
> containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new
> ones of these for years.  Mac laptops are called PowerBook (high-end PPC
> laptops), iBook (low-end PPC laptops), MacBook Pro (high-end Intel
> laptops), and MacBook (low-end PPC laptops).

I think it is.....

PowerBook (high end PPC laptop)
iBook (low end PPC laptop)
MacBook Pro (high end Intel laptop)
MacBook (low end Intel laptop)

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Jake - 28 May 2006 09:55 GMT
>> "Powermac laptop"?  PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs
>> containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new
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> I think it is.....

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> MacBook Pro (high end Intel laptop)
> MacBook (low end Intel laptop)

Right, so far as MacBook is concerned (all Intel).

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/comparison_chart.html
D P Schreber - 28 May 2006 14:54 GMT
> "Powermac laptop"?  PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs
> containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new
> ones of these for years.

The current Apple professional workstation machine is a "Power Mac G5",
and if you google "PowerMac", an Apple-sponsored link takes you to the
corresponding page in their store.  So I think we can safely say that as
far as Apple is considered, "PowerMac" refers to a current model, though
of course not for much longer.

The consumer desktop machine is, and has for some time been, the iMac.
By analogy to "iMac" and "PowerMac", the laptop names in the previous
generation simply replaced "Mac" with "Book": iBook for the consumer
model and PowerBook for the professional model.  As you say, there was
never a PowerMac laptop.

The new naming convention for laptops is completely different: MacBook
for the consumer line (this is what the OP bought) and MacBook Pro for
the professional line (this is what I'm typing on).  By analogy the
intel workstation machine, whenever it comes out, would be called "iMac
Pro".  But I seriously doubt it will be.  So much for regularity.

Otoh at least the "Pro" tag in the laptop line indicates more clearly
what the intended market is, which is an improvement of sorts.  Many
switchers were confused by "iBook" and "PowerBook" and had no clue why
they should choose one over the other.
Neill Massello - 28 May 2006 18:44 GMT
> The consumer desktop machine is, and has for some time been, the iMac.
> By analogy to "iMac" and "PowerMac", the laptop names in the previous
> generation simply replaced "Mac" with "Book": iBook for the consumer
> model and PowerBook for the professional model.  As you say, there was
> never a PowerMac laptop.

Others have noted that the PowerBook moniker predated adoption of the
PowerPC processor, but before 1994, Apple never even used the "Mac"
nickname in the official designations of its hardware or software. It
was only after the PPC transition that "System" became "Mac OS". Apple
is now removing any association of model names with a particular
processor type. A Macintosh is now defined less as a specific hardware
platform than as "a computer made by Apple that runs Mac OS".
 
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