Got one... PowerMac 13.3"
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Bob - 26 May 2006 04:45 GMT I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today. I got the middle grade one for $1,224 from Mac/PC Connection because there was no tax and free shipping. It has 2gHz, 60gb, DVD burner, etc. I have to admit that I was a little nervous after reading some of those negative reviews about the PowerMac Pro's that screamed like jet engines winding up, and heated up to where you could barbeque a hotdog over it while you surfed the Web. Well, I want to report that this beautiful little machine has been running nice and cool, and as silent as a mouse. I've been working with it for the past few hours... installing things and setting everything up. Another concern I had was whether the built-in Isight web cam would work with applications like Yahoo chat, or just with Apple's Ichat. I had called Apple and they told me it would only work with their Ichat and nothing else. However, lo and behold... the built in Isight camera works with any application that calls for a webcam. Also, I plugged in a logitech web cam to my USB port and it works fine, too. But to get the logitech camera to work... you have to go to Ichat and disable the Isight, using the Video menu. You can't run two cameras at once. I'm looking at the monitor now and it is leaps and bounds above my last 12" powerbook 1gHz. The display seems so much wider and with amazing brightness and crispness to the colors and fonts. I've got solo piano music playing now from Itunes Radio. The speakers are also beautiful... I am very happy with my purchase at this point. This weekend I will get the Boot Camp software to install WindowsXP and get that going. I'll put a note here for anyone who is interested as to how that works out. I can't wait to play with all the software goodies that came loaded on. Anyway, I would say to anyone who is on the fence, to take a breath, and kick-a-buck for one of these. So far, it seems to be well worth it. Thanks for listening... Bob
Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 06:29 GMT > Well, I want to report that this beautiful little machine has > been running nice and cool, and as silent as a mouse. Just don't feed it after midnight.
> So far, it seems to be well worth it. Thanks for listening... There ya go, then. :-)
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Florian Zschocke - 26 May 2006 08:47 GMT
> I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today. No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac.
Florian
Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 16:59 GMT In article <7AEDFEB4-932E-4F6D-94BB-A781734A4869%f.zschocke@edv-consulting-berlin.d e>,
> No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac. You're assuming he got current production. The fact that it cost him $699 seems to argue against that.
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Florian Zschocke - 26 May 2006 17:43 GMT
> In article > <7AEDFEB4-932E-4F6D-94BB-A781734A4869%f.zschocke@edv-consulting-berlin.d [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You're assuming he got current production. The fact that it cost him > $699 seems to argue against that. Where do you read that ? There is no PPC with 13,3''
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Howard S Shubs - 26 May 2006 20:55 GMT In article <E03FEC34-A314-4A86-B31A-8683349E08CB%edv@zschocke-berlin.de>,
> Where do you read that ? > There is no PPC with 13,3'' Ah! oops.
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Gregory Weston - 26 May 2006 20:25 GMT > In article > <7AEDFEB4-932E-4F6D-94BB-A781734A4869%f.zschocke@edv-consulting-berlin.d [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You're assuming he got current production. The fact that it cost him > $699 seems to argue against that. ???
"I got the middle grade one for $1,224 from Mac/PC Connection ..."
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Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 04:36 GMT In article <7AEDFEB4-932E-4F6D-94BB-A781734A4869%f.zschocke@edv-consulting-berlin.d e>,
> > > I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today. > > No more Power, it's a IntelMac or PCMac. > > Florian MacBook is sufficient.
Florian Zschocke - 27 May 2006 19:30 GMT
> In article > <7AEDFEB4-932E-4F6D-94BB-A781734A4869%f.zschocke@edv-consulting-berlin.d [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MacBook is sufficient. IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining.
Garner Miller - 27 May 2006 19:51 GMT In article <C02062FB-AAE9-4E83-B811-29861666D1E9%edv@zschocke-berlin.de>, Florian Zschocke <edv@zschocke-berlin.de> wrote:
> > MacBook is sufficient. > > > IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining. Not really, since "MacBook" is a specific product, "IntelMac" is more broad, and "PCMac" doesn't tell me anything.
Barry Margolin - 28 May 2006 02:54 GMT > In article > <C02062FB-AAE9-4E83-B811-29861666D1E9%edv@zschocke-berlin.de>, Florian [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Not really, since "MacBook" is a specific product, "IntelMac" is more > broad, and "PCMac" doesn't tell me anything. I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is MacIntel.
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Howard S Shubs - 28 May 2006 03:44 GMT > I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is > MacIntel. Shouldn't be. After "wintel", it should be "mactel". Even Apple says it that way.
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Florian Zschocke - 28 May 2006 10:44 GMT
>> I think the common euphemism for the whole family of Intel-based Macs is >> MacIntel. > > Shouldn't be. After "wintel", it should be "mactel". Even Apple says > it that way. I think it was a PowerMac and now it should be a CoreMac.
Florian
Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 21:36 GMT In article <C02062FB-AAE9-4E83-B811-29861666D1E9%edv@zschocke-berlin.de>,
> > > In article [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > IntelMac or PCMac is more concrete and explaining. Intel Mac, sure, PC Mac, not. For starters, you can't install and run Windows on one without about the same amount of work as getting Windows to run on a PPC Mac.
sean.boots@gmail.com - 27 May 2006 03:52 GMT Awesome! Glad you like it. Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was wondering if the Macbook had problems like the "Pro" apparently has. This makes me happy! :-) I hope you enjoy your new computer.
This group is a lot friendlier than comp.sys.mac.advocacy ... yikes!
John Johnson - 27 May 2006 04:48 GMT > Awesome! > Glad you like it. Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was > wondering if the Macbook had problems like the "Pro" apparently has. > This makes me happy! :-) I hope you enjoy your new computer. > > This group is a lot friendlier than comp.sys.mac.advocacy ... yikes! erm, what exactly did you expect from an advocacy group? ;-)
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Dick Sidbury - 27 May 2006 16:01 GMT > > Awesome! > > Glad you like it. Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > erm, what exactly did you expect from an advocacy group? ;-) intelligence? I subscribed to this group for about a week but saw only two posts: 1) I bought a dell for 12 dollars which is just as good as the mac that costs 12 million dollars. So macs suck.
2) Yeah, but all windows machines do is crash and have viruses and spam anyhow they suck.
dick -- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much
Howard S Shubs - 27 May 2006 16:30 GMT > intelligence? Apparently, that was expecting too much. I've never been in that group, so I can't be sure.
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John Johnson - 27 May 2006 20:30 GMT > > > Awesome! > > > Glad you like it. Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > dick > -- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much Eh. The advocacy groups (not just macs, for whatever) are where people do one of two things, IME:
1) troll the advocates of xyz to start flame wars 2) make outrageous claims about how xyz is better than anything else in the world and start flame wars.
You're really better off here. :D
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Steve Hix - 27 May 2006 21:34 GMT > > > Awesome! > > > Glad you like it. Thanks for putting the heads-up here - I was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > dick > -- yeah, I know it's an exaggeration but not much Think of advocacy groups as flypaper for trolls, leaving other groups more usable than they might otherwise be if the trolls weren't tied down.
Barry Margolin - 28 May 2006 02:53 GMT > I took delivery on a new PowerMac laptop today. "Powermac laptop"? PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new ones of these for years. Mac laptops are called PowerBook (high-end PPC laptops), iBook (low-end PPC laptops), MacBook Pro (high-end Intel laptops), and MacBook (low-end PPC laptops).
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TaliesinSoft - 28 May 2006 05:18 GMT > "Powermac laptop"? PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs > containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new > ones of these for years. Mac laptops are called PowerBook (high-end PPC > laptops), iBook (low-end PPC laptops), MacBook Pro (high-end Intel > laptops), and MacBook (low-end PPC laptops). I think it is.....
PowerBook (high end PPC laptop) iBook (low end PPC laptop) MacBook Pro (high end Intel laptop) MacBook (low end Intel laptop)
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Jake - 28 May 2006 09:55 GMT >> "Powermac laptop"? PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs >> containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think it is..... <snip>
> MacBook Pro (high end Intel laptop) > MacBook (low end Intel laptop) Right, so far as MacBook is concerned (all Intel).
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/comparison_chart.html
D P Schreber - 28 May 2006 14:54 GMT > "Powermac laptop"? PowerMac refers to the original desktop Macs > containing the Power PC chip, and I don't think Apple has made any new > ones of these for years. The current Apple professional workstation machine is a "Power Mac G5", and if you google "PowerMac", an Apple-sponsored link takes you to the corresponding page in their store. So I think we can safely say that as far as Apple is considered, "PowerMac" refers to a current model, though of course not for much longer.
The consumer desktop machine is, and has for some time been, the iMac. By analogy to "iMac" and "PowerMac", the laptop names in the previous generation simply replaced "Mac" with "Book": iBook for the consumer model and PowerBook for the professional model. As you say, there was never a PowerMac laptop.
The new naming convention for laptops is completely different: MacBook for the consumer line (this is what the OP bought) and MacBook Pro for the professional line (this is what I'm typing on). By analogy the intel workstation machine, whenever it comes out, would be called "iMac Pro". But I seriously doubt it will be. So much for regularity.
Otoh at least the "Pro" tag in the laptop line indicates more clearly what the intended market is, which is an improvement of sorts. Many switchers were confused by "iBook" and "PowerBook" and had no clue why they should choose one over the other.
Neill Massello - 28 May 2006 18:44 GMT > The consumer desktop machine is, and has for some time been, the iMac. > By analogy to "iMac" and "PowerMac", the laptop names in the previous > generation simply replaced "Mac" with "Book": iBook for the consumer > model and PowerBook for the professional model. As you say, there was > never a PowerMac laptop. Others have noted that the PowerBook moniker predated adoption of the PowerPC processor, but before 1994, Apple never even used the "Mac" nickname in the official designations of its hardware or software. It was only after the PPC transition that "System" became "Mac OS". Apple is now removing any association of model names with a particular processor type. A Macintosh is now defined less as a specific hardware platform than as "a computer made by Apple that runs Mac OS".
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