Hi all, I recently picked up a Tangerine iBook (300mhz G3), and
everything works great about it (surprisingly fast considering its
age), except the battery.
Now the obvious reply is "its a six year old li-ion, it'll be dead",
except it isn't dead, it holds a good three and a half hours charge,
but the problem is, it wont charge when the machine is running. If its
off, or in sleep, it'll charge, but the moment it boots or wakes up,
the ring turns green and it refuses to charge.
I thought at first maybe it was a problem with osX not recognising the
hardware (coming from windows you can see why I'd jump to that
conclusion), but the same thing happens under os9, so thats not it.
I've now got 10.4.5 running on it and system profiler is vaguely
informative on the subject, giving the output below. I'm using its
original flying saucer type ac adaptor, and right now the battery is
full since I left it sleeping for a few hours earlier.
Battery Information:
Battery Installed: Yes
First low level warning: No
Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 2790
Remaining Capacity (mAh): 2790
Amperage (mA): 0
Voltage (mV): 16494
Cycle Count: 77
AC adapter cannot charge battery: Yes
AC Charger Information:
AC Charger (Watts): 26
Connected: Yes
Charging: No
The first thing which jumps out at me, is that the ac adaptor has
printed on the outside of it that it should be a 45W adaptor, yet it is
apparently only outputting 26W. Is there any way to tell if this is
accurate or not? The other obvious thing is the oh so useful note that
"AC adapter cannot charge battery: Yes" I've tried googling this phrase
and come up with nothing. Infact I've googled until I ran out of
keywords and ideas, all with no joy.
I've tried a full discharge/refill cycle, I've tried resetting the PMU,
when under os9 I tried using apples "battery reset 2.0", none of which
helped.
Has anyone else had a problem like this? I dont want to have to buy a
new battery as they're not cheap, and I dont entirely trust how new
they'd be, and this one does hold a good long charge.
Many thanks in advance.
-- Tyr
John Johnson - 26 Mar 2006 05:18 GMT
> Hi all, I recently picked up a Tangerine iBook (300mhz G3), and
> everything works great about it (surprisingly fast considering its
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> apparently only outputting 26W. Is there any way to tell if this is
> accurate or not?
Ammeter. Or you could get another computer that uses the same power
supply and swap them. If the numbers stay the same on both machines,
then the power supplies are fine. IME though, DC power supplies
typically work or don't, so I doubt that this is the issue.
I'd still vote for a bad battery at this point, I think. btw, you really
only have 77 charge cycles on that battery?

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Tyr - 26 Mar 2006 19:33 GMT
> I'd still vote for a bad battery at this point, I think. btw, you really
> only have 77 charge cycles on that battery?
Thats what it says, I've no way to check since I only aquired this
machine a week or two ago. It's in lovely condition, so maybe it spent
most of its life running from ac.
Well, if it is a bad battery it'll have to be ignored, as I'm not about
to shell out for a new one when this one holds a longer life than most
newer laptops when new, but its annoying none the less.
-- Tyr
John Johnson - 27 Mar 2006 01:53 GMT
> > I'd still vote for a bad battery at this point, I think. btw, you really
> > only have 77 charge cycles on that battery?
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>
> -- Tyr
Ah, it's new to you. I'd missed that in the original.
As the other reply indicates, it could be other stuff than the battery.
You are well advised to swap your power supply and (if you can) battery
for equivalent (and known-good) versions, even temporarily. That can
provide a great deal of information about the location of a problem.
Incidentally, how long does it take to charge the battery when it does
charge? Even at 26W, it should go from empty to full in only two or
three hours I think (it's been a _long_ time since I've dealt with these
iBooks, but that's what I recall anyway), so if it's taking
substantially longer than that you've got problems somewhere inside the
case (battery or DC board in the iBook most probably).

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Lu - 26 Mar 2006 21:26 GMT
The answer to your problem is here....They say you have a problem with
your charger cord...
http://akma.disseminary.org/archives/2005/11/yikes.html