Could you recommend the best low-cost sytem upgrade for an aging
Icebook? This is a 600mhz/20gig unit with 384MB of RAM, and is around 3
yrs old. It's been OK-minus in reliability, and I'm a bit embarassed to
say, still runs the OS10.1.3 it was shipped with. Apparently I need to
upgrade the system software to get a modern browser, as IE 5.1 is
increasingly obsolescent. But I don't really want to put much more $$$
into this machine.
Thanks in advance for any tips --
Pete Tillman

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Marc Heusser - 07 Feb 2006 21:49 GMT
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> Icebook? This is a 600mhz/20gig unit with 384MB of RAM, and is around 3
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10.3 disks should be available for cheap, now that 10.4 is out, then
update to 10.3.9 via Software Update. If you have a DVD drive, you can
also install 10.4 but it will be more expensive.
Works fine over her on a 500 MHz iBook.
HTH
Marc

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Peter D. Tillman - 07 Feb 2006 23:02 GMT
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> also install 10.4 but it will be more expensive.
> Works fine over her on a 500 MHz iBook.
Thanks. What's the 'cat name' for 10.3? Any updates to avoid?
Cheers -- Pete Tillman
John Johnson - 07 Feb 2006 23:38 GMT
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> Thanks. What's the 'cat name' for 10.3? Any updates to avoid?
Panther. an eBay search for "OS X 10.3" turned up plenty of auctions.
You'll want RAM as well, IMO.
Put 10.3.9 on there with 768 or more MB RAM in it and it will likely
last you at least another couple of years (barring hardware failure or
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Marc Heusser - 12 Feb 2006 10:33 GMT
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> Thanks. What's the 'cat name' for 10.3? Any updates to avoid?
10.3 was Panther, 10.4 is Tiger.
For both, update with the commbined update to the latest version
(10.3.9, 10.4.4).
You might also consider getting a 10.4 Family pack if that applies.
10.4 is not slower than 10.3.
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Michael Vilain - 07 Feb 2006 22:22 GMT
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> Could you recommend the best low-cost sytem upgrade for an aging
> Icebook? This is a 600mhz/20gig unit with 384MB of RAM, and is around 3
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> Thanks in advance for any tips --
> Pete Tillman
You call on how much is to much. Look at auctions on eBay for 10.3 or
10.4 media. If you aren't willing to pop for $50-$100 for an OS for
this guy, why not just put him up for auction or give him to one of your
kids (if you have any that could use it) or donate it to a school.

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Gregory Weston - 08 Feb 2006 02:19 GMT
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> Icebook? This is a 600mhz/20gig unit with 384MB of RAM, and is around 3
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> increasingly obsolescent. But I don't really want to put much more $$$
> into this machine.
I think the first question is probably when you expect to replace it and
why. My G3/600 iBook was bought in 10/2001 and is still going strong as
a general use machine as well as my backup/portable development system.
Honest-and-for true, you want to max out the RAM and put 10.4 on there.
You want to max out the RAM for two reasons: One, when (not if but when)
you hit VM, you'll drop your access times by 6 orders of magnitude. You
want to delay that as long as possible. Reason two is that while you are
delaying it, the extra memory won't be wasted; the OS will use it as
disk cache, keeping recently/frequently used files near-at-hand for a
similar performance benefit. That should cost less than $100.
Then you want 10.4. You want it partly for features (because every 0.1
release of Mac OS has added significant new tools for users), partly for
stability (that 10.1.3 is likely part of the reason you've been
OK-minus), partly for support (from both Apple and app vendors) and
partly because, believe it or not, most users who've commented have seen
an actual increase in performance through major system releases.

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> partly because, believe it or not, most users who've commented have seen
> an actual increase in performance through major system releases.
Thanks for your comments. By "OK-minus", I meant the hardware: this
unit's videa cable failed in the hinge (a glaring design defect) and the
power-supply cord failed at the jack. So, not sure when the next failure
will occurr, but typically after 3 years, any hdw failure is
(economically) fatal.
I use it for typing, email and light webwork, so don't need much
horsepower <g>.
Cheers -- Pete Tillman
Cheers -- Pete Tillman
matrokr - 26 Feb 2006 19:35 GMT
best to use 10.3, aka 'panther', upgrade this to 10.3.9
works well and fairly fast with our pismo g3/500, using 384mb of RAM, which
is now about approaching 5 years young! still using this pismo for web/email/photoshopping/imovie
editing.
i'd steer clear of 10.4 or 'tiger', as a friend who went up to that on an
icebook g3/500 found it slower than his previous 10.3 installation.
>Could you recommend the best low-cost sytem upgrade for an aging
>Icebook? This is a 600mhz/20gig unit with 384MB of RAM, and is around 3
>yrs old. It's been OK-minus in reliability, and I'm a bit embarassed to
>say, still runs the OS10.1.3 it was shipped with. Apparently I need to
>upgrade the system software to get a modern browser, as IE 5.1 is
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>Thanks in advance for any tips --
>Pete Tillman