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Ted Lee - 27 Jan 2006 20:14 GMT
What is the likelihood that the price(s) of the current powerbooks will drop
when the new "Macbook Pro"'s start being delivered?
Right now the 15" models are priced exactly the same -- and yet unless you
are willing to pay something for Classic compatability I can see no reason
why once the new one is out anyone would want to buy the old one for the
same price as the new.

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Minnetonka, MN
Serge Pajak - 28 Jan 2006 02:21 GMT
> Right now the 15" models are priced exactly the same -- and yet unless you
> are willing to pay something for Classic compatability I can see no reason
> why once the new one is out anyone would want to buy the old one for the
> same price as the new.

The PowerBooks have an internal modem, and non-Universal applications
run at full speed : non-UB apps will most probably (based on the Intel
iMac benchmarks) be actually slower on the newest MacBook than they are
on the 'old' PowerBook.

That may not be a problem for somebody upgrading from an even older
machine, because I suppose that performance under Rosetta on the MacBook
are better than that on a Titanium, and of course than G3 PowerBooks.
But when you compare the lastest (and last!) PowerBook side-by-side with
the MacBook, it is not obvious that the MacBook is better by all
accounts. I guess that explains why Apple has added the MacBook without
touching the PowerBook line.

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Shawn Hirn - 28 Jan 2006 04:46 GMT
> What is the likelihood that the price(s) of the current powerbooks will drop
> when the new "Macbook Pro"'s start being delivered?
> Right now the 15" models are priced exactly the same -- and yet unless you
> are willing to pay something for Classic compatability I can see no reason
> why once the new one is out anyone would want to buy the old one for the
> same price as the new.

No one who has inside information would risk their job disclosing that
information. This is just a guess, but I figure that after the MacBook
Pro begins shipping in a week or two, and the supply of PowerBook G4
laptops begins to dwindle, prices will drop.

Just keep an eye out for the prices over the next few weeks and you'll
see how this situation pans out.
Fred McKenzie - 29 Jan 2006 03:50 GMT
> What is the likelihood that the price(s) of the current powerbooks will drop
> when the new "Macbook Pro"'s start being delivered?
> Right now the 15" models are priced exactly the same -- and yet unless you
> are willing to pay something for Classic compatability I can see no reason
> why once the new one is out anyone would want to buy the old one for the
> same price as the new.

Ted-

It is more than just Classic.  Somewhere between a third and a half of my
OS X applications either don't run or are buggy, on the Intel iMac.  If
you have a large investment in software, it can make a difference.

It will be interesting to see if any more new PowerPC models are
released.  I suspect they won't, but there are still some that were
rumored but never released such as the dual-core G4 PowerBook.

Apple will probably allow time for Intel applications to be developed.
When the big programs like Office and Photoshop are available, I expect
the existing PowerPC inventory will sell at full price until supplies are
exhausted, and that will be the end of the old line.

A more important question is, "how long will Apple continue to support
universality, so old machines can run new software?"  Probably not very
long if Intel-only software runs faster.

Fred
TMPLee@MR.Net - 30 Jan 2006 05:09 GMT
> It is more than just Classic.  Somewhere between a third and a half of my
> OS X applications either don't run or are buggy, on the Intel iMac.  If
> you have a large investment in software, it can make a difference.

Good point.

> It will be interesting to see if any more new PowerPC models are
> released.  I suspect they won't, but there are still some that were
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> the existing PowerPC inventory will sell at full price until supplies are
> exhausted, and that will be the end of the old line.

For what it's worth, I just got an email ad from MacMall cutting the
prince of the slower 15" Powerbook G4 by $300 (plus a few other
incentives.)  But the brick and mortar stores are still showing them at
full price.

Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN
Melanie L Chang - 30 Jan 2006 08:57 GMT
The store here at UCSF has cut Powerbook prices.

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Melanie Lee Chang * mchang@lppi.ucsf.edu
Canine Behavioral Genetics Project
University of California, San Francisco
http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/
Ted Lee - 30 Jan 2006 18:10 GMT
> For what it's worth, I just got an email ad from MacMall cutting the
> prince of the slower 15" Powerbook G4 by $300 (plus a few other
> incentives.)  But the brick and mortar stores are still showing them at
> full price.

Nevermind.  I read the specs more carefully -- it's at least last year's
model (1.5 GHz.)
The current one has only a $150 rebate,

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Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN
 
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