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Durability of PowerBook vs. iBook?

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Ted Lee - 18 Jan 2006 18:48 GMT
Yes, I've dug through the archives and found some comments, but not many, on
the topic, and most are several years old so I don't know if they are
current.

I'm in the market for a Mac laptop and want to get one before I'd be forced
to get a Macintel model.
How much more rugged is the iBook than the PowerBook?  Would, say, an iBook
survive a fall from the bed or couch to the floor?  A PowerBook?  (I"m
trying to decide between the 14" iBook and the 15" Powerbook.)

I can see a lot of reasons why I'd be willing to pay the extra for the
PowerBook (resolution, extended desktop, covered connectors) but if it turns
out to be a hot-house plant rather than a reliable ground cover I'm not sure
the price is worth it.

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Patrick Nihill - 18 Jan 2006 19:42 GMT
> Yes, I've dug through the archives and found some comments, but not many, on
> the topic, and most are several years old so I don't know if they are
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> out to be a hot-house plant rather than a reliable ground cover I'm not sure
> the price is worth it.

I once tripped over the power cord on my old iBook and sent it flying
off my bedside locker. It was completely undamaged afterward. It seemed
to a very tough little machine.

I now have a 15" PowerBook and I'm not keen to repeat the trick to see
how this computer would handle it.

By the way, unless you have a particular need for a Classic application,
I'd think you were better off getting the Macbook Pro instead of a
PowerBook.
Shawn Hirn - 19 Jan 2006 02:23 GMT
> > Yes, I've dug through the archives and found some comments, but not many, on
> > the topic, and most are several years old so I don't know if they are
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> I'd think you were better off getting the Macbook Pro instead of a
> PowerBook.

Being a major clutz, my 3-year old Tibook has been dropped hard several
times. My first time dropping it was when it flew out of a backpack
which had a broken zipper (I didn't realize it) and it bounced along a
concrete driveway and hit the curb. It hit hard enough to push the cd
slot closed (I had to pry it apart with a screw driver. After the third
drop, the motherboard eventually failed. I have AppleCare and the
repairs were done absolutely free even though the computer was obviously
dropped (several dents and the entire case was warped).

I would have no hesitation about buying another PowerBook for
reliability/durability issues. I do; however, plan to buy a MacBook Pro
soon to replace my aging PowerBook (which I am using now to write this
msg).
Marc Heusser - 19 Jan 2006 00:16 GMT
...
> I'm in the market for a Mac laptop and want to get one before I'd be forced
> to get a Macintel model.
> How much more rugged is the iBook than the PowerBook?  Would, say, an iBook
> survive a fall from the bed or couch to the floor?  A PowerBook?  (I"m
> trying to decide between the 14" iBook and the 15" Powerbook.)

Here is what happened to me, FWIW:
Had my 17" PB in a nice padded hull (Crumpler) when I dropped it on a
bare concrete floor from 1m height. Unfortunately it fell exactly on one
of the two bare corners (no padding of any sort ...).
Except for a small dent in its aluminum corner it did not show any signs
of damage - no data lost, no new unreliabilities etc.
HTH
Marc

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Pete Verdon - 26 Jan 2006 22:38 GMT
> How much more rugged is the iBook than the PowerBook?  Would, say, an iBook
> survive a fall from the bed or couch to the floor?  A PowerBook?

Here's another data-point. A friend keeps his 15" Al Powerbook in an
ordinary backpack, which is usually zipped closed. On this occasion it
wasn't, and as he swung it out of the car and onto his shoulder, the
computer was hurled out, flying through the air and down a one-storey
flight of concrete steps.

The back-left corner of the case, where it first landed, was dented, and
the side plate came away from the top for an inch or two. The modem
socket moulding also fell out. Being an amateur mechanic (of big heavy
steel things) he didn't see that repair should involve any more than
beating the panel back into shape with a small hammer and pushing the
modem socket back where it came from. And, miraculously, that's all that
/was/ required - the machine still works fine almost a year later,
including the modem.

I don't recommend throwing your Powerbook down the stairs but, cosmetic
dings aside, these things do seem to be tougher than they look.

> I can see a lot of reasons why I'd be willing to pay the extra for the
> PowerBook (resolution, extended desktop, covered connectors)

Covered connectors?

Pete
Nigel McMillan - 27 Jan 2006 00:56 GMT
I have owned both a Ti Powerbook and a G4 iBook and my experience (and the
reason I brought the iBook) is that the powerbook, while a beautiful
machine, is not as tough as the ibook. The case on the PB cracked after a
year of use while the ibook has been problem free for 2 years now.

Nigel

On 27/1/06 8:38 AM, in article 43t1akF1p8nppU1@individual.net, "Pete Verdon"
<usenet@verdonet.organisation.unitedkingdom.invalid> wrote:

>> How much more rugged is the iBook than the PowerBook?  Would, say, an iBook
>> survive a fall from the bed or couch to the floor?  A PowerBook?
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>
> Pete
John Johnson - 27 Jan 2006 02:32 GMT
> On 27/1/06 8:38 AM, in article 43t1akF1p8nppU1@individual.net, "Pete Verdon"
> <usenet@verdonet.organisation.unitedkingdom.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> How much more rugged is the iBook than the PowerBook?  Would, say, an iBook
> >> survive a fall from the bed or couch to the floor?  A PowerBook?

Both might or might not survive the fall, depending greatly on the
specific circumstances involved. What you mean by "survive" matters too;
even if the LCD were to be broken, your HD is far less likely to crash
on a machine with the sudden motion sensor in it than an older PowerBook
(I don't remember whether current iBooks have the SMS or not, but if so,
then as above). That means that you data will survive even if your
machine isn't worth repairing.

While I don't have an SMS-equipped PowerBook, I do carry substantial
insurance on my PowerBook, and try to back up my data frequently
(optical disk and external HD). If something happens that the PB doesn't
survive, I'll buy a new one and rely upon the backup in case the HD is
toast. While the extra insurance cost (around $40/year) may seem a bad
bargain, with my dissertation on the PB I'm not messing around...come to
think, I'm going to back that up again. ;-)

Fwiw, I keep the PB in my backpack, inside a Spire sleeve.

> > Here's another data-point. A friend keeps his 15" Al Powerbook in an
> > ordinary backpack, which is usually zipped closed. On this occasion it
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> >
> > Pete

> I have owned both a Ti Powerbook and a G4 iBook and my experience (and the
> reason I brought the iBook) is that the powerbook, while a beautiful
> machine, is not as tough as the ibook. The case on the PB cracked after a
> year of use while the ibook has been problem free for 2 years now.
>
> Nigel

Current PowerBooks are substantially more robust than the Titanium
PowerBook was. When they shifted to Aluminum cases they switched to more
robust hinges, better airport antenna location, etc.

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Ted Lee - 27 Jan 2006 17:13 GMT
> Here's another data-point. A friend keeps his 15" Al Powerbook in an
> ordinary backpack, which is usually zipped closed. On this occasion it
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> I don't recommend throwing your Powerbook down the stairs but, cosmetic
> dings aside, these things do seem to be tougher than they look.

Pretty impressive.  Thanks for the account.

> > I can see a lot of reasons why I'd be willing to pay the extra for the
> > PowerBook (resolution, extended desktop, covered connectors)
>
> Covered connectors?

Musta imagined it.

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Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN
 
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