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OS X Tiger on Powerbook G3 Lombard?

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Nelson - 16 Nov 2005 20:27 GMT
I have one of the "troubled" Lombards which runs OS 9 and OS 10.2 fine
but Panther "broke it"... it freezes after a couple of minutes to a
couple of hours.  I have never been able to get a definitive answer on
what the problem is, but there appears to be a class of these that have
something called a "copper" processor which exhibit these symptoms with
Panther.

I was wondering if by any remote chance Tiger fixed the problem.  
Anyone have any experience they could share?

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davidsteward4@yahoo.com - 21 Nov 2005 11:38 GMT
Not sure if mine is one of the "troubled" G3 PowerBooks but it runs
fine on all versions of Mac OSX up to 10.3.9. It is the 400 Mhz version
and has 192 meg of RAM and seems to run all the applications that I ask
it to.

10.4.x onwards needs at least the next version of the PowerBook, the
firewire enabled Pismo.

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JohnB - 22 Nov 2005 00:00 GMT
> Not sure if mine is one of the "troubled" G3 PowerBooks but it runs
> fine on all versions of Mac OSX up to 10.3.9. It is the 400 Mhz version
> and has 192 meg of RAM and seems to run all the applications that I ask
> it to.

It is not one of the "troubled" ones then.  Mine has never been able to
run any version of OSX smoothly.

> 10.4.x onwards needs at least the next version of the PowerBook, the
> firewire enabled Pismo.

What makes you believe Tiger needs a Pismo ?

I think that's the Apple party line but there are several reports of
people running it successfully on a Lombard.

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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy - 22 Nov 2005 12:38 GMT
> > Not sure if mine is one of the "troubled" G3 PowerBooks but it runs
> > fine on all versions of Mac OSX up to 10.3.9. It is the 400 Mhz version
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> I think that's the Apple party line but there are several reports of
> people running it successfully on a Lombard.

Isn't there a problem with _installing_ Tiger on a Lombard. My Lombard
won't recognise the installation disk but runs 10.3 fine. Apparently
there is a workaround which involves making a copy of the original disk,
but I haven't bothered to try it...

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JohnB - 22 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy wrote:

> Isn't there a problem with _installing_ Tiger on a Lombard. My Lombard
> won't recognise the installation disk but runs 10.3 fine. Apparently
> there is a workaround which involves making a copy of the original disk,
> but I haven't bothered to try it...

"The duchy of bessie's of the barn" - LOL !!

My Lombard had every problem possible with every version of OSX.
Hanging during install.  Loaded and then hanging on boot up Loading and
running for a day or two then kernel panicking every 5 mins.  Having to
take the HD out to install in a firewire case. Then not booting .....
and on and on it goes.

Not tried Tiger yet but may give it a go if I have a wet sunday
afternoon to amuse myself.

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Hugh Chaloner - 22 Nov 2005 23:11 GMT
> there are several reports of
> people running it successfully on a Lombard.

I'm successfully running 10.4 on a Lombard 333 MHz. As I've said before
- she ain't no thoroughbred but she still works.

Extracted the drive, put it a firewire enclosure, hooked up a cutting
edge 2002 TiBook (!), installed 10.4 from there onto the FW enclosure,
took it back out and slapped it back in the Lom. Takes a while but it
works.

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JohnB - 22 Nov 2005 23:39 GMT
>>there are several reports of
>>people running it successfully on a Lombard.
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> took it back out and slapped it back in the Lom. Takes a while but it
> works.

Hugh - did the Lombard run earlier versions of X ok ?  I have done what
you describe for mine with Panther/Jaguar and it never ran smoothly.

Cheers

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JohnB
Hugh Chaloner - 23 Nov 2005 13:49 GMT
> Hugh - did the Lombard run earlier versions of X ok ?  I have done what
> you describe for mine with Panther/Jaguar and it never ran smoothly.
>
> Cheers

Yes.

There's a way of telling if your cpu is X-friendly - I think it's done
via serial number I think - if you have a look on
<http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/lombard.shtml>, one of their links ponts
the way - sorry I can't be more specific. That lowendmac also suggests
XpostFacto, although I never needed to use it.

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