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Mac Forum / General / Portable Macs / October 2005Infrared transfering (IrDA)
Hi, my i have just bought a new laptop powerbook G4 with a Infrared port and i have a oldder laptop 1400c powerBook running os 8.6 and it has allso got a Infrared port but i don't have any software on the 8.6, i have not got the origeinol software for the old 8.6 so i need to download it. does any one know where i can download some software for the mac os 8.6 so that i can use the Infrared port to transfer all my files from the old mac 8.6 to the new mac G4 running mac OS X 10.3.9 with the Infrared port workking. (it doesnt matter that it might take a long time to transfer all the data) Thanks Adreil > Hi, my i have just bought a new laptop powerbook G4 with a Infrared > port and i have a oldder laptop 1400c powerBook running os 8.6 and it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks Adreil You need to check Apple's support pages to see whether the 1400 supports IRDA. I think that the PB 1400 used IrTalk instead, and that would mean that you cannot transfer data between the two machines using the IR port. If the 1400 has ethernet (which can, IIRC, be added to it) that's a way to go.HTH  SignatureLater, John johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu 'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk. well no the 1400 does not have a ethernet port so ye im a bit stuck, apart from using a floppy wich well take a long time to transfer all 100MB of data. Adriel > well no the 1400 does not have a ethernet port so ye im a bit stuck, > apart from using a floppy wich well take a long time to transfer all > 100MB of data. > > Adriel Hmm, yeah that's a problem. Find a cheap external SCSI case and put the HD into it? Find another machine with SCSI, and a suitable SCSI cable and transfer the data that way? Find a SCSI CD-ROM burner and appropriate cable? Any of these might turn into lots of work, but I'm pretty much out of ideas here. HTH SignatureLater, John johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu 'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk. > > well no the 1400 does not have a ethernet port so ye im a bit stuck, > > apart from using a floppy wich well take a long time to transfer all > > 100MB of data. Adriel- I had the PB 1400 and upgraded to a Wallstreet PB G3, which I still have. I had several ways to transfer data to a newer computer, but most won't do you any good if you don't have the needed hardware, software and connecting cables. As you suspect, the IR port can be used with AppleShare, but it requires another machine that supports AppleShare over IR. My Wallstreet could do that. The SCSI connector on the PB 1400 is the square one that allows it to be used as a SCSI hard drive if you use the right cable or adapter. I have one of the adapters that has a switch allowing it to work in normal or "SCSI Disk" modes. Connecting it to another machine's SCSI port allows the 1400 to be mounted on the other machine's desktop. CAUTION: The 1400's internal drive is NOT SCSI, so there is no internal termination. You MUST use an external SCSI termination at the 1400 end of the connecting cable. As a side note, the 1400's ide HD may be compatible with more modern machines, so it may be possible to extract it and mount it in an external FireWire housing. It may not be easy to do this, and would certainly mess up the 1400! I also have a SCSI Zip drive that allowed copying the 1400's contents onto Zip disks. I also had a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter. By connecting it to another computer using a cross-over cable, it was possible to share the 1400's HD using AppleShare over Ethernet. This should work with machines up to OS 10.3.9. The Modem port of the 1400 could also be used for AppleShare. If you had an old Dayna "Etherprint" or equivalent adapter, you could interface to the Ethernet connector on the newer machine. You might need the crossover cable, depending on how new the newer machine is. And of course there is the Modem port used as a serial port. With the Modem cable, it could be connected to a modem. With the appropriate terminal program, it could be used to make calls to another modem connected to another machine operating in host or Bulletin Board mode. You could eliminate the modems by using a null-modem adapter (equivalent to the Ethernet Crossover cable) or a printer cable instead of a modem cable. That's all I can think of, but perhaps this will give you some ideas. Fred > The SCSI connector on the PB 1400 is the square one that allows it to be > used as a SCSI hard drive if you use the right cable or adapter. I have > one of the adapters that has a switch allowing it to work in normal or > "SCSI Disk" modes. Connecting it to another machine's SCSI port allows > the 1400 to be mounted on the other machine's desktop. It occurred to me that I might have mis-remembered about the PB 1400 SCSI connector. It may have been a DB-25 connector like other Macs, but I can't recall. The Wallstreet does have the square connector and would have worked in SCSI Disk Mode as an external HD for the 1400. I definitely remember having a terrible time with SCSI because of the need for two terminations, one at the PB 1400 and one at the other end of the chain. In my opinion, Apple should have included a separate internal termination since there was no SCSI HD to provide it. Fred Ok i think i well use the modem method, how do i do that, do i buy a modem crossover cable and then the software, where's that? Adriel > Hi, my i have just bought a new laptop powerbook G4 with a Infrared > port and i have a oldder laptop 1400c powerBook running os 8.6 and it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks Adreil I think you will find that the 1400 does not support IrDa so that option is out. The cheapest alternative might be to find an ethernet card on e-bay and connect the two PB's that way. You could also find an external HD case compatible with the G4 and install the 1400's HD in the external case. The 1400's HD is not SCSI so it will work just fine in most newer external enclosures. |
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