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Mac Forum / General / Portable Macs / July 200512" G4 Powerbook space bar removal
Hi, I have just spilt beer into my month old Powerbook!!! Luckily the only thing that is affected is a sticky spacebar. I have read through the excellent guides at www.pbfixit.com but can't find anything to show how to remove the spacebar to clean it. If it won't come off easily, any harm in immersing the lower half of the keyboard in water since there doesnt seem to be any electronic parts there? Can anyone help? Thanks Alex Having seen this very problem many times, at different places of business and home, I have the following cardinal rules. 1. No food at all anywhere near the computers where you work. 2. No drinks at all anywhere near the computers where you work. 3. No plants at all anywhere near the computers where you work. 3. Consume all food and drinks in the cafeteria only. 4. Plants belong at home. I have seen people spill water, beer, softdrinks, cough medicine and all kinds of fluids into expensive stuff that belongs to them or their employer. I have seen people handle jelly sandwiches and then handle a diskette and then be unable to get the diskette to eject a few days later. I have seen CD's covered with peanut butter and chocolate from doughnuts, or the insides. I have watched people water plants and in the process, water their computers too. Do not immerse the computer in water. Either fix it yourself by disassembly or get it serviced. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Alex >Do not immerse the computer in water. You mean, the Cher video where someone was operating an iMac under the sea was fake? Waaaaaah!!!! :-) Thanks for the lecture you f.cking moron. Notice that I didn't say immerse the computer, just the keyboard! Anyone with any knowledge of the 12" powerbook keyboard? > Thanks for the lecture you f.cking moron. Notice that I didn't say > immerse the computer, just the keyboard! > > Anyone with any knowledge of the 12" powerbook keyboard? 1. If you're asking for help, particularly of people who help because they _want_ to, it pays to be polite. 2. If the keyboard is out of the machine, a basic knowledge of electronics will suffice to answer your original question, and give you the necessary procedures and precautions to take with the keyboard before and during reassembly. Why didn't I give a more clear answer? Because I too am a "f.cking moron." 3. A cursory search of the archives will turn up _lots_ of posts by and about people who have spilled things on their keyboards, discussing the best ways of cleaning keyboards. Some research would also make your answer and procedure clear. Why did I answer your question twice? Probably because I'm a "f.cking moron."  SignatureLater, John johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu 'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk. 1. Yeah it might, but then again it might not. 2. Do you really think 'a basic knowledge of electronics will suffice' when you will be doing something that might ruin a month old expensive piece of equipment? I would really rather hear first hand from someone who may or may not have carried out a similar procedure. 3. And what makes you think that I have not already searched various archives for this exact piece of information. My question is about a specific part of a particular notebook, therefore I am not looking for 'lots_ of posts by and about people who have spilled things on their keyboards, discussing the best ways of cleaning keyboards'. The process of asking questions is how anything is ever archived in the first place. f.ck off you wannabe holier than tho usenet twat. Thanks Alex > Alex hehehe... Signature^Ï^ http://tinyurl.com/d7dvo Warmonger Blair denies culpability for suicide bombings. > 1. Yeah it might, but then again it might not. It pretty clearly didn't. Allow me to be directly offensive, then. > 2. Do you really think 'a basic knowledge of electronics will suffice' > when you will be doing something that might ruin a month old expensive > piece of equipment? I would really rather hear first hand from someone > who may or may not have carried out a similar procedure. If I didn't believe it, I wouldn't have written it. I could have been more complete, but then I've only got so much time to spend on people who pretty clearly don't care what I think. > 3. And what makes you think that I have not already searched various > archives for this exact piece of information. I don't recall seeing you write about having done so, your question didn't indicate any specific information (e.g. "I've heard about xyz," or "does the procedure for abc work?"), and a substantial number of questions posted here could have been answered easily by searching the archives, and I'm not a mind-reader. > My question is about a > specific part of a particular notebook, therefore I am not looking for > 'lots_ of posts by and > about people who have spilled things on their keyboards, discussing the > best ways of cleaning keyboards'. Then I cannot help you. Neither can anyone else, because nobody else has cleaned your keyboard after spilling something on it. People have spilled similar substances on similar keyboards, and information about the relevantly similar situations would allow you to ask more specific questions. More specific questions are more easily answered. When you're asking people to give you, without charge, help that is billed, around here at least, at $60/hr with a 1 hr. minimum, making things easier for them is considered helpful. But writing this is clearly a waste of time, as you clearly know better than us (those whom you are asking for help) what we need to know in order to help you. > The process of asking questions is how anything is ever archived in the > first place. > > f.ck off you wannabe holier than tho usenet twat. Just drop me in your killfile, and you'll never have to see my posts again. I'm putting you in mine, if that's any consolation. SignatureLater, John johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu 'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk. > Thanks for the lecture you f.cking moron. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? > Notice that I didn't say immerse the computer, just the keyboard! If you actually knew about the internals of the Al PowerBooks, you'd be just a *bit* more cautious about what you proposed doing. Nevertheless, it's your computer, and it's your money... > Anyone with any knowledge of the 12" powerbook keyboard? Yes (there's one here beside me). Don't immerse even just the spacebar of its keyboard; there is circuitry and interesting (??) componentry in the area below the keyboard, and closer to the user under and around the trackpad. PowerBook Medic has tools and documentation covering that sort of work: http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G4-Aluminum-p-1-c-376.html There's no warranty on work you do yourself on your machine, don't forget. Pre-Al PowerBooks were easier to work with, in terms of popping off the keyboard. The current generation is less convenient, but it's part of the price of making the keyboard stiffer; something that a lot of users seem to have wanted. Ok, last night I successfully cleaned my keyboard of sticky beer! For the 12" 1.5GHz PowerBook G4 Firstly follow this guide for removing the keyboard: http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/53.5.0.html (removing the 4 keys is nerve wracking as they describe) I have aerosol saline solution as I wear contact lenses, which I found useful for spraying between the keys and dislodging beer build-up. Then immersed the keyboard in a tray of warm water for a few minutes. Drain the keyboard of water and leave in a hot airing cupboard for a few hours or until you can no longer see moisture through the bottom of the membrane. Reassemble and enjoy a non sticky keyboard. Alex |
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