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news.rcn.com - 22 Apr 2005 18:27 GMT
Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz
WallStreet? This unit is completely dead, wont power up, wont light any
lights charging its battery even on plug-in.

Might be something simple such as a connector come loose under the keyboard
or a dead power supply?  Is the power supply difficult/impossible to fix?
Tom - 22 Apr 2005 18:48 GMT
> Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz
> WallStreet? This unit is completely dead, wont power up, wont light any
> lights charging its battery even on plug-in.
>
> Might be something simple such as a connector come loose under the keyboard
> or a dead power supply?  Is the power supply difficult/impossible to fix?

You can download the service manual from my webspace if you email me i
will show you where.

apax63 at dsl dot pipex dot com
Frank Graves - 23 Apr 2005 00:17 GMT
> Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz
> WallStreet? This unit is completely dead, wont power up, wont light any
> lights charging its battery even on plug-in.
>
> Might be something simple such as a connector come loose under the keyboard
> or a dead power supply?  Is the power supply difficult/impossible to fix?

For a Service Manual go to:
http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/manuals.html

Try disconnecting the PRAM battery from the logic board (see manual).
Raise the keyboard and there will be a small white connector near the
right center. This is where the PRAM battery connects to the logic
board.

Disconnect this and see if it boots. If it boots, keep it plugged in
for a day or say and reconnect the PRAM battery. You don't even have to
replace it.

Good luck,
Frank
fmgtech@cox.net
Jeff Wechter - 23 Apr 2005 15:10 GMT
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> Disconnect this and see if it boots. If it boots, keep it plugged in
> for a day or say and reconnect the PRAM battery. You don't even have to
> replace it.

Why not replace it? I have a WSII that won't reliably wake
from sleep among other things, and I suspect the PRAM
battery is the cause of it's occasional misbehavior.

Pretty cool, ntl. Over 6(?) years old and still useful.
Never been back to Apple for a repair either.
Howard S Shubs - 23 Apr 2005 17:10 GMT
> Why not replace it? I have a WSII that won't reliably wake
> from sleep among other things, and I suspect the PRAM
> battery is the cause of it's occasional misbehavior.

Cost is the reason I don't replace mine.  I've had it since 01/1999.

> Pretty cool, ntl. Over 6(?) years old and still useful.
> Never been back to Apple for a repair either.

Mine's been back several times.  Thankfully, they were all during its
Applecare contract, so I was only out the time I couldn't use the thing.  
It's had its CD-ROM drive replaced, a battery replaced, the bottom of
the case replaced, the hinges replaced, the screen replaced twice, and
probably some things I don't recall off-hand.  CPU board?  Motherboard?  
I don't remember.

Now I've got a second Wallstreet for parts, though I haven't used it for
much yet.  I dunno how long I can keep this thing going. :-)  I used one
of the batteries from the parts machine to replace a dead battery, and
bought a new battery a few months ago.  I expect I could keep my
Wallstreet going for a long time.

I've also upgraded the heck out of it, most recently with an 802.11g
card.  Still, it's a Wallstreet.  If I want new features, I'm going to
have to get a new machine to supplant it some day. :-/

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Jeff Wechter - 24 Apr 2005 13:57 GMT
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<howard-A0F49D.12102323042005@news.supernews.com>,

> > Why not replace it? I have a WSII that won't reliably wake
> > from sleep among other things, and I suspect the PRAM
> > battery is the cause of it's occasional misbehavior.
>
> Cost is the reason I don't replace mine.  I've had it since 01/1999.

That's what I figured. I optimistically read the post as
though there might be something unique about the WS that got
around PRAM battery issues.

> > Pretty cool, ntl. Over 6(?) years old and still useful.
> > Never been back to Apple for a repair either.
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> card.  Still, it's a Wallstreet.  If I want new features, I'm going to
> have to get a new machine to supplant it some day. :-/

No functioning battery. I did the NewerTech upgrade when it
was first available. I've got an Orinoco Silver in there.

I've replaced the HD several times, and am actually
considering doing it again, as the PB is my web radio tuner
on the HiFi and might become a permanent MP3 player.

I did remove it from daily use by replacing it with an
iBook, which is a great upgrade.
Howard S Shubs - 24 Apr 2005 17:24 GMT
> I did remove it from daily use by replacing it with an
> iBook, which is a great upgrade.

I believe it.  I originally bought it so I could go to LAN parties.  
I've done that with it, but not for several years, for obvious reasons.
That really used to blow the PC users away.  Not only was I there with a
Mac, but it was a LAPTOP and I was putting some of them AWAY using a
TOUCHPAD!  Granted, their concept of "touchpad" and Apple's concept of
"touchpad" have little to do with each other, but they didn't KNOW that.
:-))))

Anyway, even with the Sonnet 500MHz G3 upgrade, the current disk drive
(yes, I've upgraded it several times too.  2GB just doesn't cut it), and
512MB of memory, it's still what it is.

But, assuming all I *really* need is web, e-mail, and a few other basic
things from it, I've got no reason to replace it yet.  It's running
10.2.8 just fine.

My last LAN party so far was with my 2GHz dual G5, which fit the
expected form factor better, but looked good doing it.  That was a while
ago, and I don't expect to do it again unless I can find a LAN party for
older people.  "Older" meaning "30s and up" rather than "pre-teens to
20s".  Yikes.  I'm not holding my breath.

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Howard S Shubs - 23 Apr 2005 16:56 GMT
> Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz

You're going to lie to your Wallstreet?  Why?  Or did you mean
"disassemble"?

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Cathy Stevenson - 23 Apr 2005 17:14 GMT
> Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz
> WallStreet? This unit is completely dead, wont power up, wont light any
> lights charging its battery even on plug-in.
>
> Might be something simple such as a connector come loose under the keyboard
> or a dead power supply?  Is the power supply difficult/impossible to fix?

Try www.pbfixit.com.

Our old WS would not boot (acted as if totally dead) when the PRAM
battery died - even when connected to power.

Cathy

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Richard Chang - 27 Apr 2005 02:19 GMT
> Can anyone point me to a site which shows how to dissemble a G3 300 MHz
> WallStreet? This unit is completely dead, wont power up, wont light any
> lights charging its battery even on plug-in.
>
> Might be something simple such as a connector come loose under the keyboard
> or a dead power supply?  Is the power supply difficult/impossible to fix?

 Here's a take apart slideshow for the WallStreet:

    <http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum3.html>

Have you tried zapping the PRAM? I think it was shift-ctrl-fn-power. The
green LED should come on (and the fan goes nuts).

-R.
 
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