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Mac Forum / General / Portable Macs / December 2004Orinoco card/Pismo/OSX 10.3.7
I received a Pismo with an orinoco wireless lan card in the slot and OSX 10.3.7. As we have other macs we also have an airport express station. I have read that I can make my card in the pismo work with this station, but I havn't had any success yet. I have the latest drivers for the card. Does anybody have an advice for me how to make that work? Thanx! Robert On 12/16/04 5:12 PM, in article RobertPowell-9E5ABD.17121316122004@individual.net, "Robert Powell" <RobertPowell@gmx.net> wrote: > I received a Pismo with an orinoco wireless lan card in the slot and OSX > 10.3.7. As we have other macs we also have an airport express station. I > have read that I can make my card in the pismo work with this station, > but I havn't had any success yet. I have the latest drivers for the > card. Does anybody have an advice for me how to make that work? > Thanx! Robert Remove all orinoco drivers. It then should be recognized as an AIRPORT PC CARD on the desktop. ej > On 12/16/04 5:12 PM, in article > RobertPowell-9E5ABD.17121316122004@individual.net, "Robert Powell" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ej I forgot to explain: I have not installed the official drivers since they don't work, but I have the source forge drivers that "should" work (but they dont). Robert If you continue to have problems look in here to see what driver you might need. Search for Orinoco as it is mentioned in several places. I thought an Orinoco Silver or Gold should work with the Airport software. http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm  SignatureEd Fortmiller | RUBBISHef24u@fortmiller.us | Hudson MA * * To avoid getting a lot of SPAM junk mail, I have altered my REPLY-TO * address. PLEASE remove the leading "RUBBISH" from my REPLY address. * Any Email sent to the address without removing "RUBBISH" will * automatically be discarded without me even seeing it. >If you continue to have problems look in here to see what driver you might >need. Search for Orinoco as it is mentioned in several places. I thought an >Orinoco Silver or Gold should work with the Airport software. > >http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm There are some Orinoco cards that will work and some that won't. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of buying one off eBay that did not work with my old Lombard. The good part was I was only out 15 bucks. SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" >>If you continue to have problems look in here to see what driver you might >>need. Search for Orinoco as it is mentioned in several places. I thought an [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I made the mistake of buying one off eBay that did not work with my old Lombard. > The good part was I was only out 15 bucks. Care to share which ones work, and which ones don't? Thanks. SignatureGrandpa Koca - SAHD for 6 - Keeper of the Perpetual Kindergarten My opinion is neither copyrighted nor trademarked. It is price competitive. If you like, I'll trade for one of yours. >Care to share which ones work, and which ones don't? Thanks. That would require me to dig in the closet to find where I threw the box for the one I bought that didn't work! LOL I'll try to find it and post the info. SignatureTo reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate" > >If you continue to have problems look in here to see what driver you might > >need. Search for Orinoco as it is mentioned in several places. I thought an [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lombard. > The good part was I was only out 15 bucks. I have successfully used the following Orinoco with OS9. Didn't have OSX on my Pismo at the time to test it. Orinoco Turbo 11 Silver PC T2 Extended H1T2R1 Proxim World Part Number 848441481 SignatureEd Fortmiller | RUBBISHef24u@fortmiller.us | Hudson MA * * To avoid getting a lot of SPAM junk mail, I have altered my REPLY-TO * address. PLEASE remove the leading "RUBBISH" from my REPLY address. * Any Email sent to the address without removing "RUBBISH" will * automatically be discarded without me even seeing it. > > > I received a Pismo with an orinoco wireless lan card in the slot and OSX > > > 10.3.7. As we have other macs we also have an airport express station. I > > > have read that I can make my card in the pismo work with this station, > > > but I havn't had any success yet. I have the latest drivers for the > > > card. Does anybody have an advice for me how to make that work? and > I forgot to explain: I have not installed the official drivers since > they don't work, but I have the source forge drivers that "should" work > (but they dont). I have a Lucent WaveLan in my WallStreet; I believe that it is identical to your card. The IOXperts driver <http://www.ioxperts.com/80211b_X.html> works well for me. The IOXperts driver costs $20, but a free trial is available. Davoud Signatureusenet *at* davidillig dawt com > > On 12/16/04 5:12 PM, in article > > RobertPowell-9E5ABD.17121316122004@individual.net, "Robert Powell" [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Remove all orinoco drivers. It then should be recognized as an AIRPORT PC > > CARD on the desktop. Under OS 9, yes, under OS X, no. > > ej > > I forgot to explain: I have not installed the official drivers since > they don't work, but I have the source forge drivers that "should" work > (but they dont). > Robert I've been using an Orinoco card in my Wallstreet w/OS X.2.6 and the Source Forge driver. Note that this card doesn't work with WEP. SignatureClark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" Hmm maybe someone can help with this question: I recently returned from a vacation at a Florida timeshare were the condos were serviced by a Lucent 802.11 system, but my Pismo (running 10.3/internal Apple airport card) could not connect. The laptop recognized the wireless signal (full strength) but could not log on to the internet. When queried the manager gave me an Orinoco silver PC card and said it was the "only way" one could log on to the closed wireless system. When I pointed out I was using a Mac, not Windows, he shrugged and said he didn't know if it "should" work or not. I tried the card (under OS-X and System 9) but no luck. If the drivers for the Orinoco are built in to OS-X, what is required to log on to a proprietary hardware wireless system (that does not use passwords)? Any ideas? The guy who set up the system is PC-only and clueless. TIA > Hmm maybe someone can help with this question: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > recognized the wireless signal (full strength) but could not log on to > the internet. Do you mean that you couldn't join the network, or that you could join the network, but couldn't connect to the outside? Solutions for the problems are potentially different. [snip] > If the drivers for the Orinoco are built in to OS-X, what is required > to log on to a proprietary hardware wireless system (that does not use > passwords)? 1. Just what does 'proprietary hardware mean? You mention a Lucent system. Did Lucent custom-make the hardware for the condo (it doesn't seem likely, to be honest)? Do you know what flavor of 802.11 was used (802.11a, b, or g)? 2. How do you know that it doesn't require passowrds? SignatureLater. johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu Let 'indiana' be a 'noln', and 'hoosiers' be a 'solkk'. Leave only the 'noln' and .edu after the @ to reply . > Do you mean that you couldn't join the network, or that you could join > the network, but couldn't connect to the outside? Solutions for the > problems are potentially different. I had full signal-bars in the menubar. Network preferences indicated an active IP address/DHCP lease. My laptop could "see" the wireless signal and the name of the network showed up in my airport menu. But whenever I would launch Safari it would say "site could not be found," and Mail could not connect to my server. > 1. Just what does 'proprietary hardware mean? You mention a Lucent > system. Did Lucent custom-make the hardware for the condo (it doesn't > seem likely, to be honest)? Do you know what flavor of 802.11 was used > (802.11a, b, or g)? That is the term the manager used, you could only access the network with the PC card he gave you. Not sure about the flavor. > 2. How do you know that it doesn't require passowrds? He said it only required the supplied PC card, each card had its own coded access. He was not terribly helpful and could've cared less about Macs. Thanks for your help John. > > Do you mean that you couldn't join the network, or that you could join > > the network, but couldn't connect to the outside? Solutions for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I would launch Safari it would say "site could not be found," and Mail > could not connect to my server. This sounds a little bit like a problem that a neighbor of mine is having with her DSL connection: it doesn't work on Macs. She gets full signal (the computer is joining the wireless network), and the Wintel machines in the household work just fine on the same network, but the Macs won't get any data. The ISP doesn't know what's up, and they've got more than one customer with this issue. My neighbor is using Apple's AP cards in her machines. So, I don't know whether this sort of problem can be caused/solved by the brand of network card that you use, but it sounds like other people have this sort of issue, and it's not obvious to them what the solution is. Actually, I'll have to suggest trying a different brand/sort of network card and see whether that does anything. Sorry I don't have more for you. SignatureLater. johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu Let 'indiana' be a 'noln', and 'hoosiers' be a 'solkk'. Leave only the 'noln' and .edu after the @ to reply . > Hmm maybe someone can help with this question: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > passwords)? Any ideas? The guy who set up the system is PC-only and > clueless. The only support built into OS X is for Airport and Airport Extreme cards. Some third party cards will work but not the Orinoco Silver. The Silver does work with the Airport software in OS 9. It's possible they are using MAC address filtering so it will only work with those wireless cards they have. Basically it is a ridiculous system. Plenty of laptops have built-in wireless and there is no reason to have to use a specific card. There are systems that do this much better. SignatureClark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" On 12/20/04 7:07 AM, in article cmnews-BD0F8F.22075419122004@typhoon.sonic.net, "Clark Martin" <cmnews@sonic.net> wrote: > Basically it is a ridiculous system. Plenty of laptops have built-in > wireless and there is no reason to have to use a specific card. There > are systems that do this much better. 1. Sonnett makes an airport extreme compatible 80211g pcmcia card and PCI card. 2. One has only to insert the card ant it takes over from the internal airport card. The problem with internal cards is space, not bus/interface issues or anything else. An airport card looks like a pcmcia card with the last 1/5 chopped off. An express card looks nothing like a pcmcia card, as it is wide and this more square than rectangular in nature. ej << I received a Pismo with an orinoco wireless lan card in the slot and OSX 10.3.7. As we have other macs we also have an airport express station. I have read that I can make my card in the pismo work with this station, but I havn't had any success yet. >> Robert- I have the Orinoco Silver 802.11b PCMCIA card which works in my Wallstreet as if it were an Airport card when running OS 9. It works after a fashion using the Sourceforge driver under 10.2.8. Recently I purchased a Belkin F5D7010 Cardbus card. It is recognized by 10.2.8 as if it were an Airport card. I don't know how it would work in your situation with 10.3.7, but it is less expensive than some of the other cards, and it provides 802.11g capability. Fred |
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