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synecdoche - 17 Sep 2004 06:04 GMT
My iBook arrived today.  I'm currently charging the battery.  I
understand that when I calibrate it I should charge the battery fully,
then use the computer till it runs down completely.  Does this mean
continuous use (ie should I just use it and let it sleep when I am
not, or is powering right down okay?)

I'm having a lot of fun already.  Thanks to everyone here for their
patience and advice!

Dave
Elliott Roper - 17 Sep 2004 10:06 GMT
> My iBook arrived today.  I'm currently charging the battery.  I
> understand that when I calibrate it I should charge the battery fully,
> then use the computer till it runs down completely.  Does this mean
> continuous use (ie should I just use it and let it sleep when I am
> not, or is powering right down okay?)

It should be OK. You will quickly get into the habit of never powering
it down. Sleep is magic. You can leave 20 or so applications running
forever. Slam the lid shut gently when you finish work. Open it when
you are ready again. Everything is there as you left it. Well, almost
everything - some network connections will have timed out from the
other end.

> I'm having a lot of fun already.  Thanks to everyone here for their
> patience and advice!
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David McKinlay - 20 Sep 2004 13:03 GMT
>> My iBook arrived today.  I'm currently charging the battery.  I
>> understand that when I calibrate it I should charge the battery fully,
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Just make sure you shut it down though before you start taking it out
on trips. If it's asleep you could possibly damage the harddrive
Charles Robinson - 20 Sep 2004 13:45 GMT
: Just make sure you shut it down though before you start taking it out
: on trips. If it's asleep you could possibly damage the harddrive

What the heck are you talking about?  When it's asleep, nothing is moving.  

-Charles

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Elliott Roper - 20 Sep 2004 14:15 GMT
> : Just make sure you shut it down though before you start taking it out
> : on trips. If it's asleep you could possibly damage the harddrive
>
> What the heck are you talking about?  When it's asleep, nothing is moving.  

yeah? Mine snores, and sometimes pokes me in the back just for the hell
of it.

Seriously, it has slept through so many car and plane trips, not to
mention coming jogging along in my daypack that it can't be a serious
concern.

I guess one day that wake on network access will bite me on the wifi ;-)

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Robin Jackson - 25 Sep 2004 17:18 GMT
> : Just make sure you shut it down though before you start taking it out
> : on trips. If it's asleep you could possibly damage the harddrive
>
> What the heck are you talking about?  When it's asleep, nothing is moving.
>
> -Charles

Agreed.

I have used Powerbooks in all forms for about 9 years.

I NEVER shutdown my Powerbooks and I would guess they do around
15,000-20,000 road miles per annum and generally 2-3 USA trips and I do not
shut down even on planes ALWAYS sleep.

And I have never had a failure, well except that one time when I dropped tha
damn thing.

And guess what even though I dropped it from about 6 foot onto a raised bar
on the floor which dented the Powerbook and cracked the screen, well it
still worked fine when plugged into a monitor, it was only the screen that
actually broke.

Robin
Serge Pajak - 25 Sep 2004 18:30 GMT
> I NEVER shutdown my Powerbooks and I would guess they do around
> 15,000-20,000 road miles per annum and generally 2-3 USA trips and I do not
> shut down even on planes ALWAYS sleep.

You'd better not to shut it down on planes, because the security may ask
to see you computer running. If it on sleep you just wakes it up and
that's it... if it's shut down, you have to let go through the startup
process before you can take it back.

Whether you'll be ask to show you laptop running is up to the airline,
and for international flights to the US with a US airline, IIRC it is
very likely to happend.

Yet another good reason never to shutdown a PowerBook :-)

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Mathias Rongved - 25 Sep 2004 21:00 GMT
> Whether you'll be ask to show you laptop running is up to the airline,
> and for international flights to the US with a US airline, IIRC it is
> very likely to happend.

Why do they want to see it running?

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Daniel T. - 25 Sep 2004 21:11 GMT
> > Whether you'll be ask to show you laptop running is up to the airline,
> > and for international flights to the US with a US airline, IIRC it is
> > very likely to happend.
>
> Why do they want to see it running?

So they know there is a computer inside the shell rather than C4.
Steve Hix - 25 Sep 2004 21:27 GMT
> > Whether you'll be ask to show you laptop running is up to the airline,
> > and for international flights to the US with a US airline, IIRC it is
> > very likely to happend.
>
> Why do they want to see it running?

To verify that it's a working laptop, and not a case with, oh, banana
creme filling, or something else.
Eric Johnson - 27 Sep 2004 08:46 GMT
On 9/25/04 10:27 PM, in article
sehix-B7D173.13274725092004@news.isp.giganews.com, "Steve Hix"
<sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:

>>> Whether you'll be ask to show you laptop running is up to the airline,
>>> and for international flights to the US with a US airline, IIRC it is
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> To verify that it's a working laptop, and not a case with, oh, banana
> creme filling, or something else.

Fortunately laptops are getting so small and thin that hiding a sufficient
amount of plastic explosive, which is what we are talking about here, is
next top impossible.

It is my experience that my electronic equipment is virtually ignored ex
Europe, but Ex- Hawaii and ex LA it will be checked and then stolen.

Ej

Fortunately they stole a PAL DV camera which -won't- work in the usa.

ej
Serge Pajak - 25 Sep 2004 21:27 GMT
> Why do they want to see it running?

To check if it's a real computer and not just the box that has been
emptied and filled with something else... in a modern version of the
well-konwn 'gun within a bible' thing featured in westerns, for
example ;-)
They may ask you to turn on any electronic device for that reason.

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Peter Verdon - 24 Sep 2004 23:41 GMT
> Just make sure you shut it down though before you start taking it out
> on trips. If it's asleep you could possibly damage the harddrive

Balls.

When it's properly asleep (the light on the front is "breathing") nothing
inside is moving. The only thing that has power is the RAM, and a small and
stupid portion of the network "card" in order to wake the machine if a
magic packet is received. You can even take the battery out and change it
in sleep, because a built-in backup battery keeps the power going fr two
minutes or so. There's no way that tiny battery could keep a hard drive
running.

You're no more likely to mechanically damage your Mac laptop in sleep than
when turned right off.

Pete
Laurent Daudelin - 21 Sep 2004 11:01 GMT
> My iBook arrived today.  I'm currently charging the battery.  I
> understand that when I calibrate it I should charge the battery fully,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Dave

If you want the calibration process to complete more quickly, go to the Energy
Saver pref pane and set it to never sleep when on battery power. Let it run
down. At some point, with about 10% battery remaining, you'll get a warning.
Click OK and keep running it until it goes to sleep by itself. Then, you can
plug the adaptor and revert the sleep setting when on battery power. Let it
completely recharge the battery before unplugging and running on battery power.
The calibration process should be described in the Getting Started guide you
got with your ¡Book.

-Laurent.
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