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Mac Forum / General / Portable Macs / July 2004Wallstreet and Panther install help
Howdy all, Well I've been scouring the newsgroups, websites, forums and just about anything I could get my hands on about OS X Panther (10.3.2) and installing on an old Powerbook G3 Wallstreet. First the specs: PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet 1998 - Non Fireware - Non USB) PowerPC G3 - 233 MHz 32 MB Bottom SDRAM DIMM 256 MB Top SDRAM DIMM 512 KB Backside L2 Cache New Hitachi 30 GB HD -3 partitions - OSX - 8 GB - OS9 - 2 GB - alpha - 18 GB I'm able to run any version of OS 9 just fine. But when trying to install Panther I get "startup disk was unable to select the install cd as the startup disk. (-2)" I've tried just about everything I could. "reset-all" in Open Firmware does nothing for me. Trying to boot with startup disk does nothing. Initializing the HD with NO OS install and popping in the OS X install CD just yields the little floppy disk icon with blinking question mark then shuts down 2 minutes later. I've tried System Disk Utility downloaded from Apple's site and even XPostFacto won't boot the install CD. (No errors recieved from XPostFacto either.) So I'm at a loss and hoping someone on these forums might be able to help me out. Thanks in advance! -Paul Carpenter > Howdy all, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet 1998 - Non Fireware - Non USB) Panther requires a computer with built in USB support. That's your problem right there. You can only go as high as Mac OS 10.3.  SignatureRodger > > Howdy all, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Panther requires a computer with built in USB support. That's your > problem right there. You can only go as high as Mac OS 10.3. Panther is 10.3, so Rodger means 10.2 there. -Eric SignatureEric Albert ejalbert@cs.stanford.edu http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~ejalbert/ > > > Howdy all, > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -Eric Yep, My mistake. Thanks Eric SignatureRodger > > Howdy all, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Panther requires a computer with built in USB support. That's your > problem right there. You can only go as high as Mac OS 10.3. What about a USB card? Will that get around it? Or am I SOL? Thanks for the reply Rodger! > > > Howdy all, > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What about a USB card? Will that get around it? Or am I SOL? It's not specifically about whether you have USB or not, as I understand it. When Apple makes a new OS, they decide which hardware configurations will be supported. For 10.3, all of the supported hardware shipped with USB. I believe that some people have installed 10.3 on a Wallstreet with 3rd-party software (X-post facto?) before, and reported about it here. Search the group's archives, and look up the software title (with permutations on spacing) to see what you come up with. SignatureLater, John johajohn@indianahoosiers.edu 'indiana' is a noun. Leave only the noun between @ and .edu to reply > > > > Howdy all, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Search the group's archives, and look up the software title (with > permutations on spacing) to see what you come up with. If you want to install using system disk, then remember to set your ram at no higher than 96MB. My Wallstreet had a bottom DIMM of 64MB. I simply removed the top ram piece and rebooted using system disk utility. It takes ages to install, but it will work. Having 96MB or less of ram will fool Panther into allowing the install. I did not use XPostFacto as it was not ready for Panther at the time. > What about a USB card? Will that get around it? Or am I SOL? No. The requirement isn't actually the presence of USB, but of a particular motherboard architecture. All of the motherboards with built-in USB have an architecture recent enough for 10.3, while the ones without it don't. Adding a USB card doesn't change your motherboard architecture. -- David > > Howdy all, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Panther requires a computer with built in USB support. That's your > problem right there. You can only go as high as Mac OS 10.3. No, that's not the problem. I've installed in on my Wallstreet. Rob. > Howdy all, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > 256 MB Top SDRAM DIMM > 512 KB Backside L2 Cache > So I'm at a loss and hoping someone on these forums might be able to help me > out. > > Thanks in advance! > > -Paul Carpenter Get XPost Facto at Other World Computing's website. Look for the OS X support site there. There is a setting you must watch for in XPF because of different extensions for gen 1 (all), gen 2 233 vs. gen 2 upper Wallstreets. Read the XPF forums about this. I had the PDQ Wallstreet 266 w later screen, so I had no issues. It'll work EXCEPT: Chess from 10.2 OR Chess in 10.3 will only work in 2D mode- Everything else seems fine including CardBus FireWire cards. I used all the normal / default XPF settings, and get OS 9.22 Helper so you can use that OS 9 partition for Classic. If you hard boot into OS 9 and not OS X because of a low PRAM battery and low regular battery, you must ONLY use XPF to boot back over to OS X. Don't use the Start Up Disk Control Panel in OS 9... >> I'm able to run any version of OS 9 just fine. But when trying to install > Panther I get "startup disk was unable to select the install cd as the > startup disk. (-2)" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > XPostFacto won't boot the install CD. (No errors recieved from XPostFacto > either.) Where are the Panther install CDs from? Are they bought from a shop or did they come with another computer? They must have the OS 9 friver on to boot the Wallstreet. It is definitely possible to boot a Wallstreet with the Panther disks and install it, because I have done it. However, as mentioned elsewhere you need to have a maximum of 96Mb of RAM during the install process. This can be done either by removing some, or by entering 'maxmem=96' into the System Disk Utility when you select the install disk to boot from. Rob. |
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