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John Biltz - 28 May 2004 00:52 GMT
I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
ones before the Ti was discontinued. boot ROM is 4.5.3f2 I really have 2
questions.

1. Will I be able to see the whole drive or will I hit a size recognition
limitation. I've searched some of the mac-forums and came across a 128
gigabyte limitation but some people are saying that depends on the chip
set on the external hard drive.  If I do would I be able to reclaim it by
partitioning it.

2. I would want to set it up as a bootable drive. Would it be better to
install OS X on the external drive fresh or image my drive to it? I don't
care about preferences because I would only be using it to get the laptop
running in case of something catastrophic. Probably as a last chance to
recover last minute files mostly. I'd be inclined to do a clean install
to the computer if something really bad happened to the computer hard
drive. I don't plan to ever actually use the thing. I am not planning to
run any back up programs.

Guess I am looking for someone who has this drive in the first case and
general firewire drive advice in the second. I have another external
drive but it is USB 2.0 80 gigabyte
John Johnson - 28 May 2004 02:31 GMT
> I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
> wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
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> set on the external hard drive.  If I do would I be able to reclaim it by
> partitioning it.

This does depend upon the chipset (usually firmware) of the external
case. Partitioning the drive before installing it in the case would
prevent the problem.

> 2. I would want to set it up as a bootable drive. Would it be better to
> install OS X on the external drive fresh or image my drive to it? I don't
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> drive. I don't plan to ever actually use the thing. I am not planning to
> run any back up programs.

Either way would get you a bootable drive. If you really don't care
about your stuff, a clean install is likely to be easier to do.

> Guess I am looking for someone who has this drive in the first case and
> general firewire drive advice in the second. I have another external
> drive but it is USB 2.0 80 gigabyte

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Thomas Reed - 28 May 2004 11:41 GMT
> I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
> wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
> ones before the Ti was discontinued.

Does that laptop have a USB 2.0 port?  IIRC, even my 17" PB G4 does not
have USB 2.0.  If yours does not, I don't think you'll be getting
maximum speed from the drive, as USB 2.0 is significantly faster than
the older USB.  Check your machine's specs.  FireWire would be a better
choice if you don't have USB 2.0, if your machine has FireWire.

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Howard Shubs - 28 May 2004 13:01 GMT
> > I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
> > wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
> > ones before the Ti was discontinued.
>
> the older USB.  Check your machine's specs.  FireWire would be a better
> choice if you don't have USB 2.0, if your machine has FireWire.

He _said_ firewire.  Perhaps he wants to use it with a PC also.

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John Biltz - 28 May 2004 22:32 GMT
>>> I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
>>> wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
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>
> He _said_ firewire.  Perhaps he wants to use it with a PC also.

Exactly.
John Biltz - 28 May 2004 13:28 GMT
>> I am looking at getting a Maxtor 250 gigabyte external hard drive fire
>> wire and USB 2.0. I have a 1 ghz, Ti with superdrive, one of the last
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the older USB.  Check your machine's specs.  FireWire would be a better
> choice if you don't have USB 2.0, if your machine has FireWire.

No, it has USB 1. The drive is firewire and USB. I do have a USB 2 80
gigabyte external drive. I run it with a USB 2 card in the slot and get
close to a gigabyte every 3 minutes on a transfer to the external. But
yes, this drive is going to be mainly used with firewire.
Thomas Reed - 28 May 2004 23:37 GMT
> No, it has USB 1. The drive is firewire and USB.

Ahh, sorry, didn't see the firewire part.  I saw the USB 2.0 part and
immediately responded.

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Mats Weber - 28 May 2004 16:36 GMT
I have a 250 Go LaCie external drive that I use on Firewire 400 and 800
machines. I even use it as the system disk on a Pismo (Powerbook G3
2000). I never thought there could be a problem, and there never was.

I have never tried the USB connection on that drive.
John Biltz - 28 May 2004 22:29 GMT
> I have a 250 Go LaCie external drive that I use on Firewire 400 and 800
> machines. I even use it as the system disk on a Pismo (Powerbook G3
> 2000). I never thought there could be a problem, and there never was.
>
> I have never tried the USB connection on that drive.

Reading more I don't think it will be an issue buying an all in one
drive. I haven't heard anything where a brand was named. So I think it is
a case where people have bought internal drives and put them in cases
that don't support them. Since its the chip set that really determines
this I think its likely a chip set is going to support the drive that
comes with it.
John Biltz - 29 May 2004 09:42 GMT
>> I have a 250 Go LaCie external drive that I use on Firewire 400 and 800
>> machines. I even use it as the system disk on a Pismo (Powerbook G3
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> this I think its likely a chip set is going to support the drive that
> comes with it.

Ended up getting a Western Digital 250 gigabyte. No problems
 
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