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bfeinknopf@officeformac.com - 09 Mar 2008 08:42 GMT
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Processor: intel

I have a letter I wrote years ago in either the original Word or Word 97. I was written in 1999. I am running Microsoft Office 2007 and it cannot open it in any form Rich Text, etc. Does anyone know how I might be able to still open or recover this file.

Your response is greatly appreciated.
John McGhie - 10 Mar 2008 13:05 GMT
Given that Word 2007 will open everything back to Word 6 format, that has to
be a Word 2 file.

You will get the text out by opening it with File>Open and change the Files
Type box to "Recover Text from Any File".

If that won't open it, then it's not a text file (it's corrupt, and nothing
will open it...)

Cheers

On 9/3/08 5:12 PM, in article ee92d68.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
> Processor: intel
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>
> Your response is greatly appreciated.

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Malke - 10 Mar 2008 14:42 GMT
> Given that Word 2007 will open everything back to Word 6 format, that has
> to be a Word 2 file.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If that won't open it, then it's not a text file (it's corrupt, and
> nothing will open it...)

> On 9/3/08 5:12 PM, in article ee92d68.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> Your response is greatly appreciated.

Hi, John - I was waiting to see what a Mac Office expert would answer
because I just ran into this situation with Word/Excel 2 files and Office
2007 on a PC. The issue (on the PC side anyway) is that Office 2007 SP1
will not open older formats as a security measure. You can fix this by
making some changes in the Windows registry. Of course, we don't have the
registry on Macs (yay!) so that fix won't work.

What I'm wondering is if the OP could possibly open those old Word 2 files
on a PC running either an older version of Office or one that has the
"older format fix". Or are Mac Word formats different/incompatible with PC
Word, because of the line ending and/or being writtten for the old Apple
processor? If this latter is the case, would something like the DataViz
MacLink work for the OP?

Thanks for your input.

Malke
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John McGhie - 14 Mar 2008 14:00 GMT
Hi Malke:

My guess is "No".

The Word 2 format was a simple command-stream, it's the old Word for
DOS/Windows Write format.

Since he cannot get anything out of that file with "Recover Text" then
neither can any converter.

If you use Recover Text on a Word 2 file, you see the commands embedded in
the text, but the readable text comes out.

He's getting character salad: so I suspect that the file is mangled somehow.
It might be compressed, it might be encoded, we can't tell.  But if Recover
Text can't read it, nothing else can either.

Cheers

On 10/3/08 11:12 PM, in article ut1CXSrgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,

>> Given that Word 2007 will open everything back to Word 6 format, that has
>> to be a Word 2 file.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Malke

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Malke - 14 Mar 2008 14:40 GMT
> Hi Malke:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> It might be compressed, it might be encoded, we can't tell.  But if
> Recover Text can't read it, nothing else can either.

Thanks very much. I appreciate the information.

Malke
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Peter Bakker - 04 Jun 2008 21:18 GMT
> The Word 2 format was a simple command-stream, it's the old Word for
> DOS/Windows Write format.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If you use Recover Text on a Word 2 file, you see the commands embedded in
> the text, but the readable text comes out.

The recover text function sounds like nothing more than recovery of readable
text strings from a binary file, e.g. similar to using a text viewer with a
binary file.

Older DOC file formats, e.g. used by Word for DOS, no longer appear to be
supported by Microsoft. However, there is still a way to access some old
Microsoft Word file formats by using the converters from an older converter
pack. These are not linked from the Microsoft website but can still be
downloaded as a self-extracting EXE file at
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Softlib/MSLFILES/WDSUPCNV.EXE. The package contains a
README file with instructions for using the converters. The converter files
for older Microsoft formats are Write32.cnv (Windows Write 3.0 or 3.1) and
Doswrd32.cnv (Microsoft Word 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x for MS-DOS).

These converters worked with an installation of Microsoft Word Viewer 97 on
Windows NT 4.0 as well as Microsoft Office Word Viewer 2003 running on
Windows XP.

Other links that may be helpful:
http://help.lockergnome.com/office/Converting-Word-DOS-files-ftopict684375.html
http://wordtips.vitalnews.com/Pages/T000791_Converting_Word_for_DOS_Documents.html
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/235928

Peter Bakker
mxk@datanumen.net - 10 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
On 3月9日, 下午3时42分, bfeinkn...@officeformac.com wrote:
> Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
> Processor: intel
>
> I have a letter I wrote years ago in either the originalWordorWord97. I was written in 1999. I am running Microsoft Office 2007 and it cannot open it in any form Rich Text, etc. Does anyone know how I might be able to still open or recover this file.
>
> Your response is greatly appreciated.

Hi,

I think you can try a utility called Advanced Word Repair to repair
your Word document. It works rather well for my corrupt Word
documents.
Its web address is http://www.datanumen.com/awr/

Alan
 
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