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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 17 Jan 2008 00:37 GMT
The PC version has an option to compress images in documents. I used this feature all the time but cannot find it in the Mac 2008 version.

Is there such a feature and if not, why?
JE McGimpsey - 17 Jan 2008 07:15 GMT
> The PC version has an option to compress images in documents.  I used this
> feature all the time but cannot find it in the Mac 2008 version. <br><br>Is
> there such a feature

No.

> and if not, why?

Because it wasn't implemented.

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John McGhie - 17 Jan 2008 11:39 GMT
Yes, and it's built-in.

To expand on what J.E. said: there is no "function" provided to the user to
compress images in Mac Office 2008, because it's not needed.  Mac Office has
no other way to store images except "compressed".

However, if you are looking for the PC's "Compress these images for
emailing" feature, J.E. Is quite correct, we don't have that :-)

Cheers

On 17/01/08 10:07 AM, in article ee88e46.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> The PC version has an option to compress images in documents.  I used this
> feature all the time but cannot find it in the Mac 2008 version.
>
> Is there such a feature and if not, why?

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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 17 Jan 2008 13:40 GMT
So are you saying if I have a 1GB photo in a word document and then print the document to PDF. The Mac and PC file sizes will be the same even if I compress the image on the PC and not on the Mac?
John McGhie - 18 Jan 2008 11:37 GMT
That's not what I said :-)

I have no idea what will happen in PDF.  Word doesn't do PDF on the Mac,
that's handled by Mac OS X or directly by Adobe Acrobat.

You would have to ask Apple or Adobe what would happen in PDF.

Generally, the answer will depend on what image format you're using.  RAW,
TIFF and BMP will compress.  GIF, PNG and JPEG are already compressed: they
can't be made any smaller.

I would gently suggest that if you are handling 1GB photos, Word is not your
weapon.  If you were working for me and you put 1 GB pictures in my
documents, I would come looking for you, and it would NOT be to give you a
pay rise :-)

Cheers

On 17/01/08 11:10 PM, in article ee88e46.1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> So are you saying if I have a 1GB photo in a word document and then print the
> document to PDF.  The Mac and PC file sizes will be the same even if I
> compress the image on the PC and not on the Mac?

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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 18 Jan 2008 14:41 GMT
John I agree with you 100% (BTW I meant 1MB not 1 GB).

I will explain further.

I run a website for a corporate company. On a regular basis they send me word documents. I convert them to PDF and upload them to the website.

Despite my continual requests, many of the documents contain large graphic files. In word for PC that is not a problem. I click a single button called 'compress images' and their file size is optimised for the web.

However on the Mac edition there is no such option in word to compress images.

So I go back to my original question.... Why is this feature not in the Mac edition of office?

Is there another simple way within word I can compress the images?

Re you comment above JPGs can be made smaller in the PC version of word. This can be proven by inserting a document into word and then printing to PDF. Then compress the image and print again and the resulting file is much smaller.
Daiya Mitchell - 18 Jan 2008 17:04 GMT
See what happens if you use File | Print, and on the Save as PDF button,
it has a dropdown that offers Compress PDF.

> John I agree with you 100% (BTW I meant 1MB not 1 GB).
>
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> printing to PDF. Then compress the image and print again and the
> resulting file is much smaller.
Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 18 Jan 2008 18:43 GMT
Daiya I do not see a Compress PDF option at all.

Word 2008 and Leopard.
Michel Bintener - 18 Jan 2008 19:36 GMT
Compress PDF is an option that is available in Tiger; it's no longer present
in Leopard. In Leopard, save your document as a regular PDF file, then use
Spotlight to find an application called ColorSync Utility. Drag the PDF file
onto the icon in the dock, then select "Reduce File Size" from the Filter
dropdown button at the bottom of the screen. Save the file, and the size of
the PDF file should have decreased.

On 18/01/08 19:43, in article ee88e46.6@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> Daiya I do not see a Compress PDF option at all.
>
> Word 2008 and Leopard.

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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 18 Jan 2008 19:51 GMT
WOW!!

It reduced from 14MB to 40K
William Smith - 18 Jan 2008 21:21 GMT
> Compress PDF is an option that is available in Tiger; it's no longer present
> in Leopard. In Leopard, save your document as a regular PDF file, then use
> Spotlight to find an application called ColorSync Utility. Drag the PDF file
> onto the icon in the dock, then select "Reduce File Size" from the Filter
> dropdown button at the bottom of the screen. Save the file, and the size of
> the PDF file should have decreased.

Fantastic idea! I wonder if the new Automator actions could facilitate
this. I do see in Automator (when I sort by Applications) PDF -->
Compress Images in PDF Document.

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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 18 Jan 2008 21:54 GMT
Any idea why the compress PDF option was removed from Tiger. I would have thought it would been a great feature.
Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 18 Jan 2008 22:42 GMT
Somebody else on another forum has just pointed out another way...

When printing choose PDF > Open PDF in Preview. The in Preview, choose File > Save As. Set Format as PDF and Quart Filter as Reduce File Size.
Pasadena08 - 06 Aug 2008 05:38 GMT
Michel, Thank you for this explanation.  I am very disappointed that the Save
As Compress PDF option is no longer available on my new Intel Based Mac.
Your ColorSync Utility procedure did work.  However, the ColorSync Utility
applied too much compression.  My image looks horrible.

I originally created a 200KB image (in PhotoShop) with just the right amount
of compression.  The file is small, but good enough quality for a small 3x5"
image.  I imported this image into Word.  Then, using the Print to PDF file,
my Mac OS created a 3 MB file!!!  This is the file size it created from a
Word document with only one 200K image.  Not good.  Using the ColorSync
utility I was able to produce a 80K file.  Better than 3 MB, but all I wanted
was the 200K image I so carefully created in the beginning.  Sigh!!

>Compress PDF is an option that is available in Tiger; it's no longer present
>in Leopard. In Leopard, save your document as a regular PDF file, then use
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>> Word 2008 and Leopard.
KMJ - 16 Dec 2009 18:07 GMT
The ColorSync Utility was a good tip. I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out
yet or not, but you can create a filter with less compression by clicking on
the triangle pull down on the right hand side, choose duplicate filter, then
go into that filter and change the % of sampling and the compression quality.
I had a 15MB pdf from Word, converted to 832kb with the original reduce file
size, I created a new one with 80% sampling and best quality jpg compression
and it reduced to 2MB. My client will be happy that the file is now emailable
and them image quality is still acceptable.

>Michel, Thank you for this explanation.  I am very disappointed that the Save
>As Compress PDF option is no longer available on my new Intel Based Mac.
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>>>
>>> Word 2008 and Leopard.
John McGhie - 24 Jan 2008 12:23 GMT
Sorry to take so long to get back to you ‹ we've been a tad busy :-)

On 19/01/08 12:41 AM, in article ee88e46.3@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,

> Despite my continual requests, many of the documents contain large graphic
> files.  In word for PC that is not a problem.  I click a single button called
> 'compress images' and their file size is optimised for the web.

Ah hah!  Yes, that button on the PC is "re-sampling" the image, not
technically the same operation as "compressing".  It reduces the pixel count
and (I can't remember: it may drop the colour table down too...)

> However on the Mac edition there is no such option in word to compress images.
>
> So I go back to my original question....  Why is this feature not in the Mac
> edition of office?

Michel to the rescue:  "Because on the Mac it's not needed" :-)  There are
any number of image-processing applications available for the Mac that do
this for you very well.  Mac BU I guess chose not to spend precious coding
time on replicating this function.

> Re you comment above JPGs can be made smaller in the PC version of word.  This
> can be proven by inserting a document into word and then printing to PDF.
> Then compress the image and print again and the resulting file is much
> smaller.

Yeah, but it's being done by removing pixels from the image: I
misunderstood, I was not aware that you could tolerate a quality loss.  Of
course, for website use, you not only can, you should!

Cheers

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Pagemakers@officeformac.com - 24 Jan 2008 12:44 GMT
Thanks for your reply.

Sadly, the people who send me word documents for conversion to PDF do not listen when I request that the images files should be small. Many times they send files that contain 1-2MB images. When converted to PDF the file size can be huge.

With word on a PC I simple click a button to compress all images before printing to PDF and the results are quite acceptable.

However word on a Mac does not have this option and so it would create huge PDF files.

A few users above have offered workarounds but this involved a cumbersome process.

Tiger had a print to compressed PDF option which for some reason was removed from Leopard. However, a user form another forum gave me a link to a app on the Apple website that re-instates the compressed PDF option and once again I can quickly print small PDF files once again.

Still, not sure why Word for Apple does not have this feature though.
beebs - 08 Jan 2009 19:13 GMT
I just upgraded to Leopard a short while ago and noticed today that the
COMPRESS PDF option is missing from the Print>PDF drop down menu.  You
mention someone sent you a link on the Apple website to reinstate that option.
Could you share that?  Many thanks!
lmadden - 27 Jan 2009 13:10 GMT
This is definitely a Leopard problem, not Office 2004 or 2008.  Leopard
eliminated the Compress PDF workflow.

to get it back, go to this url and download the package to reinstall the
workflow under Leopard:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/compresspdfworkflow.html

Lisa
Eagle17 - 09 Dec 2009 05:03 GMT
The PDF Compress Workflow automator that the below link takes you to only
works on Snow Leopard (MAC OSX 10.6 or higher).  Will not work on Leopard (10.
5)

>This is definitely a Leopard problem, not Office 2004 or 2008.  Leopard
>eliminated the Compress PDF workflow.
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>
>Lisa
 
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