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Mac Forum / Applications / MS Office / May 2006Very slow booting up an Office 2004 app
When I boot up an Office 2004 app for the first time each day, the app takes an unusual length of time. I can see various elements in the app being checked in a reasonable time but " Optimizing font menu performance" is very slow. What's wrong here? Armil As you've observed, this is primarily a font issue, but it wouldn't hurt to use Repair Disk Permissions - most people don't use it enough, anyway. In addition to that, Mac OS doesn't load fonts into RAM on system startup the way a Windows PC does. Instead, they're loaded when the application starts up. The more fonts, the longer the startup time. If you have dozens of fonts which neither you nor the OS require you would do well to remove them... you'd be surprised what a difference it can make. It will also slow things considerably if you have wysiwyg font lists enabled (listing font names using the actual font). Using standard display of font names will also quicken the startup process.  SignatureHTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac > When I boot up an Office 2004 app for the first time each day, the app > takes an unusual length of time. I can see various elements in the app > being checked in a reasonable time but " Optimizing font menu > performance" is very slow. What's wrong here? > > Armil > As you've observed, this is primarily a font issue, but it wouldn't hurt to > use Repair Disk Permissions - most people don't use it enough, anyway. In addition, if you use a Font management utility (including font book) and activate/deactivate fonts, Word will have to rebuild the font cache next time you launch it. Every time the list of available fonts changes, th app will rebuild the cache :-\ Corentin Signature--- Mac:MS MVP (Francophone) http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/ --- http://www.mvps.org - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com MVPs are not MS employees - Les MVP ne travaillent pas pour MS Remove "NoSpam" to e-mail me - Retirez "NoSpam" pour m'écrire Do you use a networked home folder on different machines? In that case, Entourage has to optimize the font list each time you launch the applications on a different computer. On 5/8/06 2:06 PM, in article 1147115180.459437.261730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "armil" > When I boot up an Office 2004 app for the first time each day, the app > takes an unusual length of time. I can see various elements in the app > being checked in a reasonable time but " Optimizing font menu > performance" is very slow. What's wrong here? > > Armil SignatureMickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac) PowerPoint FAQ featuring PowerPoint:mac: <http://www.pptfaq.com/> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/> > Do you use a networked home folder on different machines? In that case, > Entourage has to optimize the font list each time you launch the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > being checked in a reasonable time but " Optimizing font menu > > performance" is very slow. What's wrong here? Remember that for the moment, Office on Intel Macs is running in emulation mode until Microsoft comes out with an Intel version for the Mac, so based on other emulation software speeds, one should expect it to run about 3 times slower than on PowerPC Macs. Of course it could be something else. If you have an Intel Mac and if you have a PC version of Office, maybe you should conisder running it under Windows. If you are lucky like me, your organization wouls have licenses for Windows and for both Mac and Windows versions of Office. Anybody know how long it will be before Microsoft comes out with a version of Office for Intel Macs? Henri Hi Henri, > Remember that for the moment, Office on Intel Macs is running in > emulation mode until Microsoft comes out with an Intel version for the > Mac, so based on other emulation software speeds, one should expect it > to run about 3 times slower than on PowerPC Macs. Of course it could be > something else. I think this is not true at all. The magazine MacTech did extensive tests and reported them here: http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.22/22.05/Office2004Benchmark/ They concluded Office under Rosetta runs about the same speed, maybe a little slower in places, but certainly not 3 times as slowly. > If you have an Intel Mac and if you have a PC version of Office, maybe > you should conisder running it under Windows. If you are lucky like me, > your organization wouls have licenses for Windows and for both Mac and > Windows versions of Office. Are you serious? Are you suggesting re-booting into Windows to use Office, or using Parallels *beta* virtualization? Either way, that's a totally unnecessary approach to the problem reported by the original poster. > Anybody know how long it will be before Microsoft comes out with a > version of Office for Intel Macs? The next version will be a universal binary. The next MacOffice version *cannot* come out until after the next WinOffice version, which is currently scheduled for the end of this year (I think) and called Office 2007. There are a lot of changes being made for the next version (recoding for Intel, XML support, and I think *some* interface changes), so my guess is that it will take at least a year after WinOffice. But the timing is just my personal guess. SignatureDaiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html> What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Hi Henri, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > They concluded Office under Rosetta runs about the same speed, maybe a > little slower in places, but certainly not 3 times as slowly. On my G5 Mac dual processor, the Word project screen comes up in less than a second. On my Intel Mac, it takes about 6 seconds. I find the Office speed quite acceptable on my IntelMac, but it is cetainly slower than on the G5. Henri On 5/15/06 10:38 AM, in article arseno-576DD8.13381615052006@news.isp.giganews.com, "Henri Arsenault" <arseno@nospamforme.ulaval.ca> wrote: >> Hi Henri, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Office speed quite acceptable on my IntelMac, but it is cetainly slower > than on the G5. Yes, it's been reported that it takes longer to _launch_ PPC apps in Rosetta. But I don't find 6 seconds a big deal. And all reports so far have said that the speed difference _running_ the Office apps is hardly noticeable. Nothing even remotely resembling "3 times slower", just a few percent. I'd expect that opening slides in PowerPoint might take a worse hit, but I don't have first-hand experience. And the other apps are meant to be very acceptable. SignaturePaul Berkowitz MVP MacOffice Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html> AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/> Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be ignored. PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using - **2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise. Thanks to CyberTaz & Corentin my Office 2004 boot problem is history. Deactivating and deleting a lot of unneeded fonts using FontBook and poof, it loads in a heartbeat. And thanks to all those who chimed in, I learned a lot from you all. Arnie |
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