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Doug Bloomfield - 28 Jan 2006 14:58 GMT
Does anyone know if and when MS intends to offer an upgrade successor to
Office 2004, or is it likely to be around a while longer?
Daiya Mitchell - 28 Jan 2006 18:05 GMT
> Does anyone know if and when MS intends to offer an upgrade successor to
> Office 2004, or is it likely to be around a while longer?

Well, anybody who really knows details can't tell you, but--there *will* be
another version of Office, and it will probably be a while, because:

Public knowledge:

A free update with Entourage features (Spotlight, Sync) is due out in March.

MS has said they are working on a next version (Office 12).  It's going to
be a universal binary for both the Intel and PowerPC Macs, so that's not a
quick operation, although it is apparently "on track" at present.

The next version will incorporate some features from the next version of
WinOffice 12, so it's definitely going to ship *after* WinOffice 12.
WinOffice 12 is in early beta right now, and rumors say might ship in the
summer, MS has said it will be out sometime in 2006.

Historically, MacOffice has come out several months to a year after
WinOffice--e.g., there was Office 9: WinWord 2000/MacWord 2001; Office 11:
WinWord 2003/MacWord 2004.

References:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2006/jan06/01-10MacWorld.mspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/rick_schaut/archive/2005/06/01/424086.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/howtobuy.aspx?pid=upgrade

My opinions:

WinOffice 12 is a huge undertaking with big changes to the UI and the file
format, so my personal guess based on complete ignorance of everything is
that it will be out later in 2006 rather than earlier, just cause I figure
it'll take longer than they expected.

I assume you are trying to decide whether to buy Office 2004--kinda depends
on your situation.  If you are happy with Office X, why change things?
Though it is true that Office X seems to be basically just Office 2001
ported to OS X, while Office 2004 actually has some new features.  But that
depends on whether you are the type of computer user who would make use of
the new features.

If you are worried Office 2004 will vanish before you have a chance to buy
it--no, not until something else replaces it.

If you are using Office in Classic, I'd go for Office 2004. Right now the
upgrade eligibility for Office 2004 goes back all the way to Office 98, but
there is no guarantee that will persist.

With Office 2004, my opinion is that you'd be in good shape to sit back and
see if the next version (Office 12) might be skippable for you.  There ought
definitely to be an Office 13 version, because MS also just publicly
committed to working with Apple for 5 more years.

Hope that helps--

DM
Doug Bloomfield - 28 Jan 2006 19:01 GMT
Reply from Doug:

Thank you very much.  This was very helpful.  I do have Office X and OS X
10.4.4; I've experienced some problems with Word locking up or crashing.
Also I don't like the paste (cmd-V) command when copying and pasting from
Safari.  I prefer the old system that apparently pasted as formatted text,
which I now have to do in two mouse steps rather than a single keyboard
command.  Cmd-V gives me a copy block that often just starts the cursor
wheel spinning endlessly until I have to do a force quit.

I was really wondering, I guess, whether 2004 might work more smoothly with
10.4.4 than Office X.

And, as you noted, I didn't want to bother upgrading to Office 2004 if it
was about to be replaced with Office 2006.

Again, thanks for the good info and advice.

>> Does anyone know if and when MS intends to offer an upgrade successor to
>> Office 2004, or is it likely to be around a while longer?
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> DM
Daiya Mitchell - 28 Jan 2006 19:28 GMT
Hi Doug,

> Thank you very much.  This was very helpful.  I do have Office X and OS X
> 10.4.4; I've experienced some problems with Word locking up or crashing.
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> command.  Cmd-V gives me a copy block that often just starts the cursor
> wheel spinning endlessly until I have to do a force quit.

Those sound like fixable problems--probably a glitch somewhere rather than
an inherent problem with the setup/design.  On general principle, never pay
money to upgrade in the hopes it will fix a problem.

Re pasting as formatted text--are you sure that's Office X?  I feel like it
might be connected to what Safari 2 puts on the clipboard.  However,
regardless, you might try recording your two mouse steps as a macro and
assigning a keyboard shortcut to the macro.  (and if recording doesn't work,
ask for help writing the macro--there's almost always a way in Word to get
an action to a keyboard shortcut, just takes a little effort sometimes)

But, between Word locking up and crashing and the spinning beach ball on
cmd-v, I think you should run through some of the basic Word troubleshooting
steps, which are listed here:

http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm
(hit refresh a few times in Safari, or use a different browser)

Work through them one by one until something helps.  If nothing does, post
back. The most common culprit is a corrupted Normal template or damaged
Preferences file.

The things you describe sound like things that respond to standard
troubleshooting.

If that doesn't help, further questions about Word X would be better on the
Word newsgroup, just because I skipped Word X, so there will be more people
who are familiar with it on the Word-specific newsgroup, and those people
don't always check this one.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word

> And, as you noted, I didn't want to bother upgrading to Office 2004 if it
> was about to be replaced with Office 2006.

My personal guess is that it's gonna be WinOffice 2006 and MacOffice 2007,
though I guess it's just barely conceivable that MacOffice 2007 could arrive
at the end of 2006.  But I'm not holding my breath.

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